Because Of Online Pranks, German Politician Recommends Kids Get Internet Licenses

from the say-what-now? dept

There have been various stories in the press about people using Facebook to set up small parties, in which they accidentally make the invite public. Hilarity ensues as thousands RSVP and attend. One of the big stories where this happened involved a German girl and, apparently, German politicians don't like this at all. They're now debating a plan to outlaw such things:
“If, in advance of an announced Facebook party, there are concrete indications of a danger to the participants or third parties, then it is the duty of the local authorities to ban the party.”
But, even worse, one politician, who supports the ban, also claimed that kids be required to get "internet driving licenses" that "would explain the dangers of Facebook." That seems a bit extreme. Thankfully some politicians recognize this:
“The simple fact that excesses happen on the sidelines of such events does not justify a general ban,” Wolfgang Bosbach, the chairman of the domestic affairs committee in parliament, told the daily Kolner Stadt Anzeiger, according to Spiegel. “There are also riots on the sidelines of football games and demonstrations but that does not mean that we should completely ban them.”
Is it so hard to admit that sometimes kids get involved in silly pranks and they don't require massive legal changes?


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    Pixelation, Jul 8th, 2011 @ 8:45am

    I just love dumbass reactionary politicians.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 8th, 2011 @ 8:55am

    Learned Nothing

    It vould appear dat dey haff learned noting from their own history off the 1930-1945 era, ja?

     

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    Keith Foster (profile), Jul 8th, 2011 @ 9:02am

    Tickets too

    So will they get Internet Tickets too?

     

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    The eejit (profile), Jul 8th, 2011 @ 9:04am

    Re: Learned Nothing

    Actually, they have. Alas, the US hasn't.

     

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    Atkray (profile), Jul 8th, 2011 @ 9:05am

    ...and

    Cookies?

     

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    Donnicton, Jul 8th, 2011 @ 9:35am

    Re: Tickets too

    Ticketed for speeding on the internet. Slow it down a little, buddy.

     

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    Ninja (profile), Jul 8th, 2011 @ 9:35am

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    I don't. While they do provide good laugh material they act on collective hysteria over such small incident and use this hysteric drive to approve absurd such as an internet license..

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 8th, 2011 @ 9:37am

    Interesting Idea

    Actually, I don't think this is that bad of an idea, but for everybody. That way, instead of 3 strikes kicking you off the internet completely, you just lose your license to access the internet, and have to reapply for it after a certain period of time and perhaps after some courses on illegal internet activity.

    Obviously an "internet" license shouldn't mimic a driving license in every way (since 95% of the time lives aren't at stake), but it's a better alternative than the "3 strikes" plan as it is now...

     

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    Donnicton, Jul 8th, 2011 @ 9:44am

    Re: Interesting Idea

    You have to learn how to parallel park your packets in the router queue, and reverse them 50 feet successfully without hitting other packets.

     

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    Drizzt, Jul 8th, 2011 @ 9:53am

    You should mention, that Mr. Bosbach is demanding such stuff on a regular basis. He's a "law & order" guy who wants always the most draconian "security laws" (in quotes as most demands aren't proven to improve security at all, security theatre maybe).

    The sad part is, that you can't ignore that clown entirely, since he has some say within the CDU/CSU and such ideas might get picked up in parliament. But as a general rule of thumb: most things he has demanded so far, were (luckily) never moved forward or even brought into parliament. That's just a populist demand during the summer break (where there's almost nothing else to report as most people are on vacation).

     

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    Fickelbra (profile), Jul 8th, 2011 @ 10:04am

    Re: Interesting Idea

    I really cannot bring myself to think that a system where your government hands you your Internet rights would ever be idea.

     

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    Fickelbra (profile), Jul 8th, 2011 @ 10:04am

    Re: Re: Interesting Idea

    Ideal* Doh!

     

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    Chronno S. Trigger (profile), Jul 8th, 2011 @ 10:12am

    Re: Interesting Idea

    "Actually, I don't think this is that bad of an idea, but for everybody."

    So says the anonymous coward.

     

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    MrWilson, Jul 8th, 2011 @ 10:52am

    Re: Interesting Idea

    Yeah, that's what we need - one more barrier to access. People work online, get their education online, socialize online. Almost anything people do that's harmful to others on the internet is already illegal.

    The concept is as asinine as locking someone out of society in order to better socialize them.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 8th, 2011 @ 11:01am

    Speaking of internet licenses, there's a computer certificate in Europe (or there is in the UK at least) called an ECDL: European Computer Driving License. Yup.

     

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    wizz, Jul 8th, 2011 @ 11:17am

    We hade sort of a similar problem in France with some public parties being atended by thousands of happy people. Well, a day a drunk died, and Facebook events became the nemesis of France, seconds some politicards.
    This kind of reactions from politicians are totaly insane but spreading rapidly. Let's hope they came to their senses in time.

     

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    Palmyra (profile), Jul 8th, 2011 @ 11:36am

    So will they once again see a guy in a black leather coat come to the door demanding Papers please.

     

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    Overcast (profile), Jul 8th, 2011 @ 11:42am

    Re:

    I just love dumbass reactionary politicians.

    You're in luck then - that's about 98% of them, maybe more.

     

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    Overcast (profile), Jul 8th, 2011 @ 11:43am

    Re: Re: Learned Nothing

    Actually, they have. Alas, the US hasn't.

    No... I don't really think they have, lol. But I agree, the US hasn't either.

    Of course, consider that much of the 'funding' for Eugenics came from parties OUTSIDE of Germany.

    www.waragainsttheweak.com

     

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    Overcast (profile), Jul 8th, 2011 @ 11:49am

    Re:

    So will they once again see a guy in a black leather coat come to the door demanding Papers please.

    Naa, they can just implant a chip and use wireless to replace the black leather coats.

    And luckily, for the tyrants, databases can be kept on machines more efficient than the Hollerith now.

     

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    Austin (profile), Jul 8th, 2011 @ 3:11pm

    Mandatory Training Video

    I have to agree that a license for using the internet is going several steps too far. However, I've often thought that when a user gets new service from an ISP, they should be required to watch a 10-15 minute training video on the Internet. Seriously. They shouldn't be able to load a web page or pass any other traffic until they watch it. No test, no real verification that they actually watched it, but maybe, just maybe, if 10% of the total dumbasses on the internet had seen such a short video before they were unleashed on the web, we'd all be 10% better off.

    As to the content of the video...well, I'd try to stick primarily to the technological end of things. "This is a web browser, it loads web pages. This is an email client, it reads and sends email." So on and so fourth. That said, a quick, 2 minute etiquette section would do the web as a whole a world of good. I'm not saying we should tell everyone 4chan is bad. But perhaps we should explain to the newbies that what happens on 4chan is best left there and not spread elsewhere on the web?

     

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    Bergman (profile), Jul 9th, 2011 @ 1:58am

    On the one hand, requiring kids to have a license in order to express themselves, with the option to revoke it that comes standard with all licenses, sets a horrifying a precedent. If it can be done to one citizen, it can be done to other citizens, and eventually other citizens can become all citizens.

    But despite the horror my inner-libertarian feels, the thought that this would also amount to a license to become a politician, and wondering what would happen to a politician whose license to communicate was revoked, has me cackling maniacally (under my breath, anyway).

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 9th, 2011 @ 2:22am

    Re: Re: Interesting Idea

    ...and know how to use your virtual headlights because it's pretty dark inside those tubes.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 9th, 2011 @ 7:56am

    How is this remotely an issue, and why are people all doom and gloom because so many strangers RSVP'd to a damn event on Facebook. Are you f-wording kidding me? Oh noes i made this event and now a shit ton of people i don't know are coming, some of these pansies need to grow a pair.

    Also it's called the f-wording postal service, send out invitations the old fashioned way if you think your life is ruined because of a harmless prank. God damn.

     

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    Androgynous Cowherd, Jul 9th, 2011 @ 4:32pm

    Outright banning a party like that would violate the right of the people to peaceably assemble, would it not?

     

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