Universal Music: We Need PROTECT IP Because Musicians Are Dying!

from the hyperbole-much? dept

Last summer, we pointed out that Universal Music Group Distribution President Jim Urie had sent out a letter on behalf of MusicRightsNow -- a laughable astroturf group that pretends to support musicians, but is a front for major label and legacy industry interests, asking people to submit letters to Congress in support of a new law against online infringement. At the time, we had thought it was a push for a three strikes law, but it was really just pre-COICA posturing (showing, of course, that the major labels knew all about COICA before the rest of us did). Once COICA was out, Urie sent out another such letter, and followed it up with one more right before COICA was set to be up for a vote (before Ron Wyden thankfully blocked it).

With PROTECT IP being the reincarnation of COICA, it should be no surprise that Urie has sent out yet another such plea letter, asking people to alert their Congressional representatives of why they should support PROTECT IP. Just as with the past letters, if you follow the link in Urie's letter, it takes you to a website where the letter is static. There is no way to edit it. In fact, the site claims that the text is required. Yup. It's "required" that you leave the letter intact. There is no way to express your own opinion at all. You may only parrot Jim Urie and Universal Music's position on PROTECT IP.

Doesn't it seem somewhat ironic, for an industry that talks up the importance of individual creativity and not copying others, that it only wants you to copy the letter they've pre-written?

So what does the static letter say? After kicking off with a rather false offer to "compose message," when you can't do any composing, it offers the following required text:
My livelihood depends upon a healthy music industry – and that’s why I hope you will support S. 968, legislation to protect Intellectual Property and encourage action against online theft.
Lots of people's livelihood depends on a healthy music industry, but S. 968 doesn't do anything to create a healthy music industry. As plenty of studies have shown over and over again, there exists a very healthy music industry today -- more healthy than before the internet came along. What's unhealthy is the part of the business Urie is in charge of leading: the part that's about selling recordings. Just because Urie failed to lead Universal Music into the modern world, it doesn't mean we need a law designed to break the internet to cover up for his failings.

And, seriously, can we stop calling infringement theft?
The online theft of music is killing artists, singers, songwriters, musicians, retailers, production engineers and others. It is destroying jobs, dreams and careers. The music community is at risk, as is the unique culture of American music itself.
Yes. Read that again. He doesn't say that it's killing their careers (even though it's not). He literally says that it's KILLING THEM. Talk about ridiculous hyperbole. Even if they really just meant that it's killing their careers, this is flat out wrong. Over and over again we've shown that more and more people are making music and making money from music than ever before. The music community is not at risk and neither is the culture of American music. What's at risk is Jim Urie's job. For shame. Probably should have adapted to a changing market. Pleading to Congress by lying about dying musicians is a desperation play, but won't save your job, Jim.
Despite an astounding array of legal and convenient ways to obtain digital music today, online theft continues. Of course, music is just the “canary in the coal mine” – books, movies, television programs, games and software are suffering damage that will grow more profound if left unchecked.
And yet, there is no evidence that stopping infringement leads to more purchases. You know what would lead to more purchases? Adapting to a changing market. It's a shame, then, that Urie and Universal Music is unwilling to do so.
S. 968 would provide law enforcement with new tools to stop criminals engaged in piracy and counterfeiting online. I urge you to support this legislation and any other efforts designed to assist our nation’s creative community.
S.968 would provide law enforcement and Universal Music with new tools to stifle speech, attack innovations and generally hold back progress hopefully for long enough until Jim Urie can retire. What it won't do is stop "criminals." It certainly won't assist our nation's creative community. Our nation's creative community (the truly creative ones) have learned how to embrace new forms of distribution and new business models and will actually be held back by laws like this.

Anyway, we eagerly await the evidence Jim Urie has of musicians deaths from infringement.


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    Marcus Carab (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 9:47am

    killing artists

    Maybe it was intended as a subtle warning. "If you don't do something about the internet, we are going to have to start literally killing artists to sustain our bonuses."

     

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    Jay (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 9:58am

    Re: killing artists

    Don't shoot or Lady Gaga gets it!

     

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    Chronno S. Trigger (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:03am

    Damn pirates

    What with all the pirates costing the poor corn farmers their jobs there isn't enough food to go around. The "poor starving artist" is now the "poor starving to death artist". You don't see the famine because your just a filthy pirate, you just copy the corn.

    But in all seriousness, do you think they would be pissed if I set the salutation to "You would be an idiot to believe this" and the signature to "seriously apposed to this".

     

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    AJBarnes, May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:04am

    Music prices are KILLING me

    So we need a canned form to send to the same recipients saying that these bloated prices are killing consumers. The music industry is the antithesis of a competitive marketplace and Congress is wont to enforce any monopoly laws on the industry. Congress is just there, apparently, to take money from music execs and do their bidding.

     

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    Filter Bait, May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:07am

    You're Killing Music

     

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    Mr. Smarta**, May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:10am

    This is true!

    This is absolutely true! Every time somebody downloads a band's song, God kills every member of the band in the most horrible way possible, by loading up a baby into a bow and shooting it into the heart of every band member! I've seen it happen.

    Fifteen hundred people downloaded a song entitled "Don't download this or we'll die" by The Boofwaffles, and sure enough every member was killed fifteen hundred times. The drummer even complained about the number of times he was shot with a harmless baby through the chest.

    Right now, musicians who's songs are being downloaded are getting slaughtered over and over again, sometimes no less than eight million times.

    WE NEED TO STOP THE MADNESS AND THE SENSELESS KILLING!!

     

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    scarr (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:12am

    Compose the closing

    Can I change "Sincerely" to "Ha ha, just kidding"?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:16am

    Yes, we should just sit back and let counterfeiters foist fake products upon an unsuspecting public.

    Likewise, we should just sit back and let parties infringe copyrighted materials for profit without any impediment.

    After all, the original manufacturers and rights holders are just "buggy whip" makers who are stupid for not adopting new business models.

     

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    Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:22am

    Re: Damn pirates

    I had a similar thought. Print it out, take a red marker and write "This is all lies" and mail it.

    Also, we now have:

    But, but... death!

     

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    Mike Masnick (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:22am

    Re: Compose the closing

    Can I change "Sincerely" to "Ha ha, just kidding"?


    Brilliant.

     

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    Mike Masnick (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:23am

    Re:

    Yes, we should just sit back and let counterfeiters foist fake products upon an unsuspecting public

    No one said that. Why did you make that up?

    Likewise, we should just sit back and let parties infringe copyrighted materials for profit without any impediment.

    No one said that. Why did you make that up?

     

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    David Good (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:24am

    My mom was a musician and piracy didn't kill her. Leukemia did.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:24am

    At least they let us Choose how to sign. My suggestion?

    Lying through my teeth,

    Screw DePublic Interests

     

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    Anon, May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:27am

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    Now you're getting it!

    Hoooray!

     

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    Chronno S. Trigger (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:28am

    Re:

    You're right, we shouldn't let this unbridled copying to continue. ICE, take down that website; Jim Urie needs to be punished for his flagrant encouragement for piracy and taking credit for other people's work.

    In case you can't tell, I'm in a vary sarcastic mood today.

     

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    jackwagon (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:31am

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    I can't believe you're being so cavalier about this while musicians are dying.

     

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    Pjerky (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:34am

    I wonder...

    I wonder if we could write a law that outlaws the business model of major record labels. What we would outlaw is the stealing from artists and fans that they have been doing for decades. We could call it PROTECT ARTISTS.

     

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    DannyB (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:36am

    Re: killing artists

    Don't give the record labels any ideas.

     

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    D. Hope-Ross (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:36am

    Re:

    Smartest thing I've ever seen an AC write here.

    Thanks for finally getting it!

     

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    :Lobo Santo (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:39am

    Re:

    Dear AC,
    Please shove your conflated arguments where the sun does not shine

    OR

    you've forgotten your /sarc mark.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:40am

    Re: Re:

    I respectfully diaagree with your answer to the first comment. Time and time again comments have been made on this site that persons who order counterfeit goods are almost certainly aware of what they will receive.

    The same is true of the second comment. You have recited time and time again that copyright is an anachronism, and that all rights holders need to do is adapt and change their business models.

    My comment was made with the totality of articles and comments presented here in mind, articles and comments that stretch back for a number of years.

     

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    AltaVoz (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:42am

    Buy Indie Support Locals

    While it's great to vilify the majors, we do it all the time, the fact of the matter is that artists that many of love, enjoy and support aren't on a Major label.

    So when when the press or fans goes and paints the whole spectrum of artists as Major Label suckwads, The indie band (often a family run business) that supports their local economy by playing, recording and giving the gift of music back is hurt.

    Just look at every discussing of now going about the Cloud services, royalties payments and IP. It's all from the Majors perspective; Yet they only produce 20 percent of the music and rarely do their releasase show up in our exports.

    We say how about writing a letter to your officials saying we want to the U.S. Gov to once again back the U.S. musical community. As opposed to multi-National-Corporations that aren't exporting U.S music as they haliburtonize the entertainment biz and encouraging U.S. consumers to entertain our economy to death.

    While your at it. Ask your local media why they only cover the Majors' we know the MSM works for MultiNationals' so they're not going too say boo about it.

    Buy Indie Support Locals ain't just recommended for food~ it's the best way to serve music to feed your soul.

     

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    Raphael (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:42am

    Re: This is true!

    Well, that explains the trillion-dollar losses the RIAA has been suffering. They're not outright lies--the RIAA accounting department has just been counting sales lost in the alternate universes used by pirates to kill band members. It's all there in black and white, and even the MPAA has officially stated that alternate universes usually involve pirates.

     

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    TechnoMage (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:43am

    Your own counter-letter

    Shouldn't YOU add a place for counter-letters to help people send these silly letters, but with REAL facts, citations, and thought out logic ? ;)

     

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    Mike Masnick (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:44am

    Re: Re: Re:

    I respectfully diaagree with your answer to the first comment. Time and time again comments have been made on this site that persons who order counterfeit goods are almost certainly aware of what they will receive.

    You were not responding to the comments on this site. You were responding to my article about Jim Urie's letter.

    Besides the fact that many people do (and studies have shown this to be absolutely true) purchase counterfeit goods knowing full well that they are counterfeit, does seem to weigh heavily on the false claims of harm, does it not?

    The same is true of the second comment. You have recited time and time again that copyright is an anachronism, and that all rights holders need to do is adapt and change their business models.

    Indeed, but that has nothing whatsoever to do with this post.

    My comment was made with the totality of articles and comments presented here in mind, articles and comments that stretch back for a number of years

    I see. In other words, you can't respond to the issues actually raised in this post, so you're going to post off-topic thoughts.

     

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    Raphael (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:48am

    Re: Buy Indie Support Locals

    "...giving the gift of music back ..."
    Please define "gift".

     

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    That Anonymous Coward, May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:48am

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    His staffer has the copyright over the drivel he wants to mail off to congress, and he is encouraging them to copy it.

    HES KILLING STAFFERS!!

    But nice try at connecting counterfeit real good with digital copies of things, could you please explain how Suzy downloading a track from bittorrent makes her a profit.

    Its a nice refrain, but please provide a factual basis to the delusion that there are billions being made by these copyright infringers. I'd like to understand the source of this misinformation so I can hunt it down and murder it.

    No right now rights holders want to use their buggy whips to shred the Constitution to support a business model that in unsustainable. They want to have all of the power based on "because we said so", not on anything factual. Given how they continue to deceive, inveigle, obfuscate the facts from how they make their money, to their campaigns to "support" artists that all just seem to line their own pockets, and now cross into complete farce with everytime you download an artist explodes in a puff of brimstone - When you Torrent, Your supporting SATAN! form letter.

     

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    Raphael (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 10:56am

    Re: Re: Buy Indie Support Locals

    To clarify: an artist like Brad Sucks gives the gift of music in a way that is respectful to fans and generates profit. If you're using 'gift' to mean 'outmoded copyright-based business model writ small' then I'm not sure I'm interested in supporting that.

     

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    ChurchHatesTucker (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 11:04am

    Re: Re: killing artists

    Pew! Pew! Pew!

     

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    ChurchHatesTucker (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 11:05am

    Re: Re: Compose the closing

    Problem is, they're never going to be read that closely.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 23rd, 2011 @ 11:07am

    Re: Re: Re: Re:

    Masnick, you're not suggesting that studies say people knowingly are buying counterfeit medications are you? How about brake pads? Electronics?

     

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    Richard (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 11:10am

    Death as a career move

    They're forgetting that death is a great career move for musicians.

    Think of Buddy Holly, Jimmy Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Kurt Cobain, even Freddie Mercury and John Lennon.

    It's an old saying that you can't be a great composer until you stop composing and start decomposing.

    So surely anything than kills musicians is probably doing them a favour... (career wise)

     

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    Buck Lateral, May 23rd, 2011 @ 11:16am

    Re: Re:

    No, instead you raise specious free speech and due process questions. Why don't you just bankroll a lawsuit if you're so sure you're right? Oh yeah, the same reason that the Google-funded professional apologist groups (EFF, PK, CDT) don't- it would mean having to put money where your mouth is and risk having a court rule that your arguments are so much bullshit.

     

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    AltaVoz (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 11:36am

    Re: Re: Buy Indie Support Locals

    The music you have that anchors the moments either glad or sad in your life is not a service nor can some machine make the notes, feeling and words blend together into soulful meaning that is the gift that is overlooked.

    While I know that that your trying to reframe the underlying message with the fact that it paid for by someone I say that folks don't think twice about paying 7 bucks a day for water poured over beans, which I happen to think are gift too The water pouring part is a service. Just like packing and distribution is in entertainment.

     

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    LordBinky, May 23rd, 2011 @ 11:37am

    I just want to make it completely clear IP THEFT EXISTS and I agree with Jim Urie that IP theft is killing musicians. Let me explain. First if it is copyright theft, that means I stole the copyright (I don't know if I need to ominously cackle here or laugh like Snidely Whiplash). I would think that is possible through online means of changing some database that stores ownership of a copyrighted work. That makes online copyright theft completely possible and a reasonable fear if your livelihood depends on it. What Jim Urie fails to do is statements is correctly identify what is being stolen, which as far as I can tell is nothing. So therefore I agree with Jim Urie that nothing is killing. As for Jim Urie's efforts I do not agree with since he is trying to fix nothing, which usually leave you with something broken that you will need to fix.

     

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    ComputerAddict (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 11:42am

    Okay Here is my Stab at this thing Bold letters/words are replacements / additions:

    My Livelihood depends upon a healthy music industry - and that's why I hope you will REJECT S.968, legislation to DESTROY INNOVATION and encourage LEGACY BUSINESS MODELS.

    The online theft of music is PROLIFERATING SMALL artists, singers, songwriters, musicians, WEBHOSTS, CODERS, and others. It is CREATING jobs, dreams and careers. The Music community is GROWING, as is the unique culture of American music itself.

    Despite an astounding array of legal and convenient ways to obtain digital music today, online MUSIC SUFFERS. Of Course, music is just the "canary in the coal mine" - books, movies, television programs, games and software are suffering damage that will grow more profound if CONSTRICTING LAWS ARE CONTINUOUSLY PASSED.

    S. 968 would provide law enforcement with UNCONSTITUTIONAL tools to stop INNOCENT BUSINESS STARTUPS engaged in INNOVATIVE and CUTTING EDGE online CONTENT. I urge you to REJECT this legislation and any other effors designed to HINDER our nation's creative community.

    Please do everything within your power to encourage a meaningful and swift response to this OVERREACH.

    Sincerely

    ComputerAddict

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 23rd, 2011 @ 11:43am

    Ha

    The fact that he says piracy is literally causing musicians to die...could quite possibly be the greatest piece of literature I've ever had the pleasure of reading.

     

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    ChurchHatesTucker (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 11:45am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    There's 'counterfeit as in trademark infringement' and 'counterfeit as in fraud.'

    Vanishingly few people buy brake pads or medications as status enhancers.

     

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    Zach Mollett (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 11:48am

    Textbox limits

    How many characters do the closing and name field allow? I'd end up writing the a counter position in, or put a hyperlink to a pastebin entry.

     

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    Jim Boofwaffle, May 23rd, 2011 @ 11:51am

    Re: This is true!

    As the lead singer for The Boofwaffles I have to ask that you not use our name without paying proper licensing.

     

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    Chuck Norris' Enemy (deceased) (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 12:10pm

    Re:

    Likewise, we should just sit back and let parties infringe copyrighted materials for profit without any impediment

    Look, copytroll said as long as we don't make a profit we can share copyrighted materials!

     

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    Raphael (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 12:11pm

    Re: Re: Re: Buy Indie Support Locals

    Thanks. I think if I was doing it now, I probably wouldn't have posted that first comment asking for a definition. It was a knee-jerk reaction to what looked initially like a deceptive use of language, but which I now see was simply a matter of word choice.

    I still think it's better for all artists to release their work under Creative Commons licenses, because that way their work is allowed to become part of a (probably eternal, based on what I've seen of the internet) global culture. But I think that's a choice that people get to make about their work: choosing whether they want the archiving, publicity and relevance-maintenance services that ecosystem provides in return for trusting their fans to show love. It looks like AltaVoz is trying to support artists but doesn't think that tradeoff has a real chance of success. I disagree with that outlook, but I wish you luck supporting artists.

     

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    ChurchHatesTucker (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 12:12pm

    Re: Re: Re:

    It would mean having money, which is where our justice system breaks down.

     

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    AltaVoz (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 12:18pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Buy Indie Support Locals

    No worries, IMHO, we're on the same track. I have to laugh, I got stuck on the that point and pulled out gift since I had just been thinking about music and charity.

    We plan on allowing our artists to use the creative common licenses on tracks or projects that they feel like offering them up as and not on others that they feel are important either as it part of a whole story, aka record, or is statement in and of it's self.

    We are going to the next step and allowing our musician's to have a charity or local group become part of the mix by tying whole products or a single download to a given cause or concern. BTW We do plan to do both Clicks 2 Bricks Distro.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 23rd, 2011 @ 12:24pm

    Re: Re: This is true!

    ssssssshut up, you are suppose to be dead

     

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    NotMyRealName (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 12:26pm

    Re:

    What profit? if there is profit, why aren't the studios doing it? That way, the pirates who aren't spending any money can somehow automagically increase the studio's profit from the "too broke to buy stuff" population segment, which currently contributes approximately $0.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 23rd, 2011 @ 12:27pm

    Re: Re: Re:

    IDK why doesnt ICE file a lawsuit against these sites and actually bring them before a court? Maybe they are afraid to risk having a court rule that their arguments are so much bullshit.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 23rd, 2011 @ 12:29pm

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    it was probably caused by piracy

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 23rd, 2011 @ 12:30pm

    bye, musicians will do just fine without you!

     

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    falconcy, May 23rd, 2011 @ 12:32pm

    Jobs for life

    Methinks they need to realise that for the majority of the working population does not have a "job for life" and they should not expect it either.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 23rd, 2011 @ 12:34pm

    Re:

    http://www.rch.org.au/kidsinfo/factsheets.cfm?doc_id=10324

    you should get that random yelling checked out

     

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    Jim Boofwaffle, May 23rd, 2011 @ 12:34pm

    Re: Re: Re: This is true!

    I am writing this from musician heaven. They have great wireless access here.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 23rd, 2011 @ 12:34pm

    Re: Music prices are KILLING me

    The corporations pass the laws, the government enforces them.

     

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    The Groove Tiger (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 12:38pm

    Yarr! Piracy is making artists walk the plank!

     

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    JEDIDIAH, May 23rd, 2011 @ 12:50pm

    Silly Bad Rhetoric.

    ...except this isn't about counterfeit drugs.

    In fact, counterfeit products that actually can harm the consumer have no business being conflated with "pirated creative works". You're trying to dishonestly hijack the sympathy that people would have for an individual victim. You are then trying to have that misplaced sympathy applied to a corporation.

    In this context, the "counterfeiting" of musical recordings is in fact a victim-less crime. Similarly, there is no "victim" if someone goes down to canal street and knowingly buys a knockoff of some designer label.

    Your nonsense is the perfect argument against throwing together quite different issues and types of intellectual property and trying to turn them all into the same thing as if everything was run through a sausage grinder.

    Also, consumer protection from fraud is not something that needs to have any association with "copyright" or "patent" what-so-ever. That sort of thing really isn't an intellectual property issue at all.

    Of course the idea of protecting the consumer will get no traction in the rather crass corridors of power.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 23rd, 2011 @ 12:53pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    Fraud, trademark infringement, copyright infringement, theft, murder. These are all laws and they are all equal and if you break the laws you are a criminal and criminals are guilty otherwise they wouldn't be called criminals.

     

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    ComputerAddict (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 1:02pm

    Re: Re:

    Sorry my bad, It should have read "Okay Here is my stab at this thing; capital letters/words are replacements / additions:" instead of "...bold letters/words are..." I got lazy and didn't want to add all the HTML open/close tags.

    If your just trolling, offer up a shred of proof that what I said was incorrect.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 23rd, 2011 @ 1:07pm

    Hadn't heard about this petition.

    I'm going to share it via twitter and facebook and ask everyone to sign it as a personal favor to me.

    Thanks!

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 23rd, 2011 @ 1:10pm

    Re: Re:

    No one said that. Why did you make that up?

    So what *are* you proposing then?

    Answer the question, you cowardly, disingenuous slimeball.

     

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    Mike C. (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 1:33pm

    Re: Re: Re: killing artists

    Wait a minute... that gives me an idea... yeah, yeah... I can see it now. The next major campaign from major media... it's sure to work:

    Stop pirating music now or we'll make sure Kei$ha gets to and stays at the top of the charts forever!!!!

    *shudder*

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 23rd, 2011 @ 1:52pm

    Re:

    Cool. So all 2 of your friends will sign?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 23rd, 2011 @ 2:15pm

    Re: Your own counter-letter

    I would also love to see a convenient way to send this post (or something like it) to my current congress critter

     

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    Any Mouse (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 2:17pm

    Re: Re: Re:

    Free speech and due process are among the cornerstones of our nation and our system of law. ANY questions regarding them are meaningful, not specious. To make this sort of statement marks you. Marks you as one who does not think these things are important. That the rights and liberties of the many must be trampled by the few in the name of the Almighty Dollar. (Buck? Right.)

    Putting money where your mouth is doesn't mean that you are right. It just means you have money to purchase a decision in your favor. As I love my country, I despise my government (Which is as it SHOULD BE!), and I argue that corporations are being given far too much power in our courts, our government, and our lives.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 23rd, 2011 @ 2:29pm

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    When did you stop beating you're wife?

     

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    The eejit (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 3:20pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    No, everyone's a citizen until proven innocent. Then they become career criminals. IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE NOW.

    Go away, and die in a groupie.

     

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    The eejit (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 3:23pm

    Re: Re: Re:

    I propose a wholesale reform, and 'sell' it to my local MP each week, every week. I contact the PRime Minister each month. I make my proposals very clear as to what should be done.

    And yet, we're the disingenuous ones. I do not think it means what you think it means.

     

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    JMT, May 23rd, 2011 @ 3:27pm

    Re: Re: Re:

    You realise in all your posts you come across as cowardly, disingenuous and slimy right?

    You're like the comic relief, but not that funny...

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 23rd, 2011 @ 3:46pm

    Re: Re:

    I suspect you're being a little generous there...

     

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    ChurchHatesTucker (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 5:02pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    Might want to check your sarcasm detector.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 23rd, 2011 @ 11:25pm

    Pirates aren't just killing music, your honor, they're killing musicians. Can we bring them up on murder charges now?

     

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    The eejit (profile), May 23rd, 2011 @ 11:51pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    Yours was too, my /sarc tag went AWOL :)

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 24th, 2011 @ 1:39am

    MusicRightsNow = lulz killers

    The "killing artists" line is now gone from the boilerplate form...

     

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    Moot, May 24th, 2011 @ 9:38am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    If you aren't being humorous in comparing killing people with creating copyright police on the web... Watching everything under pretense of collecting ip abusers... I din't getcha. If you break broken laws, like helping slaves escape in those day are you a criminal?

    What isn't cool is making laws for your buddies. Those laws are born broken.

     

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    Moot, May 24th, 2011 @ 9:38am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    If you aren't being humorous in comparing killing people with creating copyright police on the web... Watching everything under pretense of collecting ip abusers... I din't getcha. If you break broken laws, like helping slaves escape in those day are you a criminal?

    What isn't cool is making laws for your buddies. Those laws are born broken.

     

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    ChurchHatesTucker (profile), May 24th, 2011 @ 10:18am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    Well, mine looks OK but I've got a screw leftover...

     

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    iveseenitall, May 24th, 2011 @ 11:46am

    The pie is shrinking because the industry giants have less artists under contract and own the rights to a smaller percentage of what feeds the publics appetite.
    Many of the vehicles used to attract the listener are gone thanks in great part to the demands of the industry giants. More and more of the surviving, as well as new, entertainment channels look to serve a different master.
    Who killed radio? Who tried and tried to impose unsustainable restrictions on the end users? Who did all that work?
    How many times do we have to pay for your sins?

     

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    Eric Schwartz, May 24th, 2011 @ 4:18pm

    Sign this Petition

    This online piracy act bill is trying to kill free speech. It was already done in England and now they are trying to do it here. This bill will limit free speech and tell search engines like google not to produce search contents when you write in a search. GO TO http://www.dontcensorthenet.com and sign and tell the senators NO TO THE ONLINE PIRACY ACT BILL. S.968

     

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    Josh Taylor, May 26th, 2011 @ 9:16am

    Too late people. The SJC has speedily passed the bill.

    Next thing the gov't wants to do is to make it mandatory to have DRM-thought police chips implanted in the brain of us Americans just in case we try to criticize the govt, corporates, and businesses in real reality.

     

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    Damien Bizeau, May 27th, 2011 @ 1:59am

    Eric F. Vermote

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    Damien Y. Bizeau, Apr 1st, 2011 @ 7:15am

    Eric F. Vermote illegally used P2P in Maryland during 2003-2004 (bootlegs & audio files for his car). This man with a IT degree works for NASA & the University of Maryland but went to jail for automobile theft in Florida... he is definitely not at all scrupulous with music too obviously and filed a defamation legal suit in France against me in July 2009 stipulating he never got involved in on-line piracy because he is a manipulative liar & because the case involved never got officially substantiated or couldn't ever be substantiated; my point is that if the Internet had been better regulated by the US government Eric F. Vermote would not have had the opportunity to lie against me and pretend what I accused him of (on-line piracy) is frivolous. On-line piracy cases almost absolutely never get substantiated unfortunately! Damien Bizeau - Classical Music, France.

     

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    Damien Y. Bizeau, May 31st, 2011 @ 10:04am

    Eric F. Vermote

    Eric F. Vermote illegally used P2P in Maryland during 2003-2004 (bootlegs & audio files for his car). This man with a IT degree works for NASA & the University of Maryland but went to jail for automobile theft in Florida... he is definitely not at all scrupulous with music too obviously and filed a defamation legal suit in France against me in July 2009 stipulating he never got involved in on-line piracy because he is a manipulative liar & because the case involved never got officially substantiated or couldn't ever be substantiated; my point is that if the Internet had been better regulated by the US government Eric F. Vermote would not have had the opportunity to lie against me and pretend what I accused him of (on-line piracy) is frivolous. On-line piracy cases almost absolutely never get substantiated unfortunately! Damien Bizeau - Classical Music, France.

     

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