Guy Sues Google Because His Past Lawsuits Show Up In Google Results

from the yeah,-that'll-work dept

Eric Goldman points us to a pro se case filed by a guy, Paul Hynard, who is apparently quite upset that searches on his name point to previous lawsuits that he was involved in that he doesn't want public. Of course, as with many pro se lawsuits, many of the concepts in the filing (embedded below) are a bit on the nutty side. However, as Goldman notes, this is the sort of thing that will become a lot more common if Europeans succeed in passing laws that grant a right to be forgotten. Do we really want to be dealing with regular lawsuits like this?


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    The eejit (profile), Apr 29th, 2011 @ 2:39pm

    One word

    Rofl.

     

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    Grey Ferret, Apr 29th, 2011 @ 3:52pm

    When you decide to run out into public and start jumping up and down, flailing your arms and yelling "Look what I can do!", you really shouldn't have a right to be upset when people actually look.

     

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    ChimpBush McHitlerBurton, Apr 29th, 2011 @ 4:32pm

    Retarded?

    That guy has a pretty typical Caucasian-American name, so I'm assuming he's not a foreigner. In that case, the only other plausible conclusion is that he's a)retarded, or b)insane, which is a form of retardation. I wrote better than that in 2nd grade.

    I don't think he chose pro se; I think every lawyer he saw about this case escorted him to the door; probably with a certain amount of haste.

    CBMHB

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Apr 29th, 2011 @ 4:42pm

    Can courts even accept that? It needs a good deal of interpretation and educated guesswork just to figure out what he's saying. Isn't it impossible to accept such an incomprehensible case?

     

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    Pickle Monger (profile), Apr 29th, 2011 @ 4:47pm

    Treasure trove of brilliance

    Google Inc is a private corporation? Than what the hell are they trading on NASDAQ???

    He doesn't want Google pointing to his other lawsuits... How about his address that's on the filing? Let's all go to 140 Ravine Ane, 3A, Yonkers, NY, 10701 for a lawsuit party!

    I love how he differentiates between "google" and "Google, Inc.".

    ChimpBush McHitlerBurton is right: that's some horrible writing. But part 3a really takes the cake!

     

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    Pickle Monger (profile), Apr 29th, 2011 @ 4:47pm

    Treasure trove of brilliance

    Google Inc is a private corporation? Than what the hell are they trading on NASDAQ???

    He doesn't want Google pointing to his other lawsuits... How about his address that's on the filing? Let's all go to 140 Ravine Ane, 3A, Yonkers, NY, 10701 for a lawsuit party!

    I love how he differentiates between "google" and "Google, Inc.".

    ChimpBush McHitlerBurton is right: that's some horrible writing. But part 3a really takes the cake!

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Apr 29th, 2011 @ 4:55pm

    Re: Retarded?

    He's clearly illiterate, but that doesn't imply he's retarded. I prefer not to jump to conclusions.

     

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    Gracey (profile), Apr 29th, 2011 @ 5:36pm

    Sooooo...

    -did he also sue the people who actually made the records public and searchable (which would make more sense);
    -did he also sue bing, yahoo, dogpile and every other search engine?

    Because his other suits were easily found on those other search engines too.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Apr 29th, 2011 @ 5:37pm

    Re: Retarded?

    He is definitely not retarded, but typical name or not the mistakes he makes are those of someone who learned English as a second language. I taught English for a while in Eastern Europe, traveled a lot, and have read the technical documents and programming notes from many people for whom English is a second language. Unless he has some odd cognitive disability I am not familiar with he was foreign born. It is odd because that name is Irish or English.
    What I can't figure out is how he got Montaintuer out of Mountainview, where Google has its headquarters.

     

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    Atkray (profile), Apr 29th, 2011 @ 7:16pm

    We need boxes on the posts to mark them because far and away this story is the funniest thing this week.

     

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    aguywhoneedstenbucks (profile), Apr 29th, 2011 @ 7:25pm

    Re: Treasure trove of brilliance

    I think a blanket party may be more in order for this guy.

     

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    The eejit (profile), Apr 29th, 2011 @ 11:12pm

    Re: Re: Treasure trove of brilliance

    IS this the one with the men in white coats and the circular van with triangular wheeels again? I like that ride.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Apr 30th, 2011 @ 8:55am

    Re: Re: Re: Treasure trove of brilliance

    No, but that's a nice party too.

     

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    Michael H (profile), Apr 30th, 2011 @ 12:26pm

    Where oh where do you start

    Well Eric Goldman understands neither the internet, law, or common sense in general.

    Public records and publically documents? No clue.
    Search engines? Sorry, what are they again?
    Websites? They're things you get your porn from right?

    Seriously, I do hope the judge has some modicum of common sense and laughs this out of court at the first possible opportunity.

    And what will be generated from this case filing? Sing it with me now everyone (to the tune of the Mickey Mouse club theme)!

    S-T-R
    E-I-S
    A-N-D effect

    Streisand effect, Streisand effect...

     

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    Gene Cavanaugh, Apr 30th, 2011 @ 12:34pm

    Lawsuit against Google

    Excellent reporting and analysis. This is why I read Techdirt (almost exclusively).

     

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    BongoBern (profile), Apr 30th, 2011 @ 1:26pm

    Google and You

    Oops! Public information going public. What is a boy to do?

     

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    Ken, Apr 30th, 2011 @ 4:52pm

    This idiot doesn't realize that a lawsuit is a public act and therefore when you file a lawsuit the proceedings and court documents are all public. If you don't want your name to out in public then don't involve the public in your private disputes by filing a lawsuit.

     

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    Ken, Apr 30th, 2011 @ 4:55pm

    Every aspect of a lawsuit should be public

    Its time to make ALL documents relating to settlement activities public as well. End confidential agreements once a lawsuit is filed. If you want something confidential then don't file a lawsuit. Once a lawsuit is filed every aspect of the dispute should be made public.

     

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    Anon, Apr 30th, 2011 @ 8:13pm

    We can all have a good laugh at this guy, but the truth is that there's two groups of people:

    1. People who have nothing embarrassing in their lives at all.
    2. The other 99.999% of the human race.

    The "right to be forgotten" isn't some frilly little thing overly delicate people are whining about. It really is the sort of thing that the absence of will make life impossible.

    Consider a simple thing like getting arrested because you hadn't paid a parking ticket. Maybe you never knew you had a parking ticket. (Someone borrowed the car, got the ticket, meant to pay it, never did, and now you're in the back of the cruiser going downtown.)

    Doesn't matter. Some hyper-anal HR department, thanks to the Internet, is able to go all the way back to the womb on you. And because the lawyers and accountants run everything, that ticket is exactly what is needed. "We'd like to hire you, but you have an arrest record. We can't take a risk with someone unstable."

    "What? You're not offering me the job just because of an arrest?"

    "That's right. Of course, we'll never admit that. We'll just say you weren't a good fit."

    Do you really think all the millions of people who have one tiny imperfection in their entire Internet-accessible lives are just going to fade away? Nope. They'll become drains on society. If jobs become unavailable due to things you did/wrote/said 10, 20, or 30 years ago, we're going to end up with an unemployment rate of about 60%.

    Strike out all the personal information on the Internet. Leave the porn, games, etc., but let John Smith12345 live down the one angry e-mail he posted 12 years ago.

    None of this information is out there for some sort of "information should be free" reason. It's all out there because the Internet has become the largest database of customer behaviors and habits ever. Look at Facebook. How hard is it to figure out that it's a marketer's wetdream. People pump billions of pieces of information into it about all sorts of things. And they do it for FREE! To get market research that fine-grain would have cost trillions of dollars.

    But people do it for free because it's fun. Wait until more people start knowing people who are unable to work because a single blog post, a single e-mail, a single photo made it into the wrong hands.

     

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    Anonymous American, May 1st, 2011 @ 6:10am

    But people do it for free because it's fun. Wait until more people start knowing people who are unable to work because a single blog post, a single e-mail, a single photo made it into the wrong hands.

    To quote Syndrome, "And when everyone's super... [chuckles evilly] - no one will be."

    Likewise, as "everyone" eventually posts something someone else will disagree with, it ceases to be an issue.

    Take a look at tattoos among the US population. In my short lifetime they've moved from "only thugs get them" to your stockbroker having tattoo sleeves down both arms and your favorite lawyer having her kid's pictures on her shoulder.

    Realistically, any potential employer who does a background search that includes looking over - and considering important - my internet history from a decade or more, or asking for me to "friend" them on Facebook is an employer I'm not going to be working for anyway. To me it smacks of an employer with serious lack of boundaries and thinks they get a gateway into my personal life.

     

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    abc gum, May 1st, 2011 @ 6:46am

    Re:

    I miss MAD TV

     

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    abc gum, May 1st, 2011 @ 6:51am

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    This complaint is going on your permanent record son

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 1st, 2011 @ 3:09pm

    Anonymous American,

    The gap between "everyone has it" and "no one cares anymore" in corporate America is about 20 years, especially for entry-level positions. You honestly think when someone sits down with a lip-plate or a bunch of piercings going through their face and all the way up an ear that they're not at a disadvantage? It's like saying fat people aren't at a disadvantage (even though every study shows that fat people are still -- WRONGLY -- considered to be dumb and lazy). The population is getting fatter every year, and has been for decades. But we still see a thin-centric society, don't we? The notion that "no one will care" in 20 years is based on nothing other than wishful thinking. And I think a lot of the 20-year-olds right now have already rendered themselves unemployable.

    And yes, you may not want to work for someone so arbitrarily cruel that they'll hold that one e-mail or one facebook comment against you, but when you're looking for a job, and it's been six weeks, then six months, then a year, you'll take a job with ANYONE.

     

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    fritz43 (profile), May 4th, 2011 @ 4:56pm

    This entire topic.

    *Yawn*

    If you're truly upset by this, here's a thought: Bin Laden's "mansion" is Jockstrap-o-stan is probably available now. Go ahead, disappear yourself.

     

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    lrobbo (profile), Jun 8th, 2012 @ 3:00pm

    This stuff is just another case of having no understanding of how a search engine works.

     

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