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Bizarre UK Free Speech Ban Bars People From Telling Anyone -- Including Elected Officials & Lawyers -- About Potential Toxic Chemicals
from the say-what-now dept
Having just mentioned a bizarre superinjunction against free speech in the UK, I should also mention an even more bizarre "hyperinjunction" that was apparently issued by the UK High Court years ago, and goes so far as to ban people talking to their own elected officials or lawyers about a claim that "paint used in water tanks on passenger ships could break down and release potentially toxic chemicals." This hyperinjunction was apparently issued years ago, but is only coming to light now, because a Member of Parliament brought it up -- and he's protected by "parliamentary privilege" from getting into trouble for mentioning the otherwise secret order. Honestly, the details are pretty sketchy, but it appears that the court flat out ordered someone not to discuss a particular legal dispute concerning such toxic chemicals:
with "members of Parliament, journalists and lawyers", along with the US coastguard and any ship owners, and also forbids any speculation linking chemicals in the paint with the illness of any individuals.I'm trying to figure out how this could possibly make sense in a country that has even marginal respect for free speech. Even worse, it appears that the individual that this hyperinjunction was targeted at later got in trouble for daring to talk to a lawyer about the case. What kind of country allows such a ridiculous suppression of basic rights?
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England, duh.
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so england...that is those island people who pretend to be in the european union while going to war for america. totally wanting to be a big shot in brussel but not even have the Euro...drive on the left side of the street, consider a 2-party system a democracy, invade Lybia .... all that seems as absurd as calling their national football team "good".
maybe free speech isnt made for the uk.
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George Orwell was close
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Also:
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(lib dems and conservatives are currently in power with a coalition goverment)
just thought i'd fix your only error
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That's where you're going wrong you see.....
You're mistaking the UK for a country that has even a marginal respect for free speech. We turned into a police state some time ago and didn't bother to tell anyone including the residents.
What, like the right to remain silent when arrested?
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Re: That's where you're going wrong you see.....
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Re: Superinjunction
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No? How about a kick in the bollocks, then?
Still not interested? Well, hey, don't complain - you have a choice, and that choice is *the only thing that matters*. It's called democracy, you commie bastard!
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Firstly those Island people are made up of 3 mainland countries & N. Ireland.
Secondly.. 2 Parties, yeah in 1950.
Thirdly Britain & France was chomping at the bit to go into Lybia before the USA.
Fourth that little group of islands of the coast of europe has more clout than Brussels.
Finally UK built the biggest empire the world has ever had - it is plonkers such as yourself that will force us to do it again.
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Shhhhh - there is a SuperInjunction which stops everyone from talking about it.
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The judges in the UK are a breed apart from everyone else. Some of the things they come up with are just mind boggling and to anyone else would seem completely ridiculous.
Hopefully Parliament will step in and do something about this. That the guy couldn't talk to an MP or even a lawyer means that he had no right to recourse at all which is just not right in a supposedly free society.
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And yet.......
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maybe free speech isnt made for the uk."
Point of note, England and the UK aren't interchangeable terms. It's like confusing Texas and the USA.
You might also want to read about John Milton, John Locke and John Stuart Mill. Note which country they were from.
I hate nationalism, but the reverse is bad too.
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FWIW this site is biased against legal stupidities.
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I'm issuing a super-duper-ultra-hyper-radical-extreme-triple dog dare-injunction. Effective globally, covering everything.
There, now if you speak at all, you owe me all of your income for life, and for 100 years after you assume room temperature, just in case you're worth more dead than alive.
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They can block it inside the U.K. but the rest of the world doesn't need to follow that.
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You mean the US is not a part of TEXAS?
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Lots of love,
Lawyers.
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Just remember...
Then we created a Constitution to protect our rights.
And we have since been modeling our laws after England and the UK, slowly eroding those rights.
Makes sense, right?
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A country ruled by the rich clown with a metal hat.
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http://cryptome.org/0003/hempel-toxic.pdf
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barbara strikes again..
tada!!! hundreds of MILLIONS of people suddenly read about it across the entire planet!!!!!
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You forgot to magnify the fine print in order to read the disclaimer, which is typed in a font size of .0000000069. It reads as follows:
This injunction overrides, supersedes, and makes null & void all previous and future injunctions that seek to render this injunctions null & void. Any attempt to do so shall result in the foreheads of any person(s) involved being flopped with copious amounts of phallus.
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nothing new here - again.
massive - massive fines and bans are given if you are caught using toxic paints in shipping.
ships are regularly tested and checked when entering new countries.
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A country whose leadership is, along with counterparts in other lands, in the process of bombing people in other lands in accordance with a «responsibility to protect» them. «Difficile est saturam non scribere....»
Henri
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Corrupt Governments
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Re: nothing new here - again.
The article isn't talking about the problems with using toxic paints in shipping is it?
You've failed to read and truly comprehend what exactly was said here - again.
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re: what kind of a country
Oh yes, and the same kind of country that allows ludicrous libel tourism for works not even published in the uk.
Oh yes, and the same country that still thinks copying a cd to your hard-drive is a crime: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8422308/HiFi-manufactures-advert-encouraged-people-to-bre ak-the-law.html
Oh yes, and the same kind that, post Digital Economy act, makes you liable for the actions of users of your wifi spot.
In short, one run by idiots who legislate on headlines and judges who make case law in ignorance.
My country.
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