TSA Refuses To Provide Body Scanner Info In Lawsuit... Claiming Copyright Prevents Handing Over The Info

from the uh,-what? dept

Last year, we mentioned that privacy advocates EPIC were suing over the TSA's decision to use the naked scanners at airports. Reader jilocasin alerts us to a bizarre update in that lawsuit. Apparently the TSA is refusing to provide specific evidence to the court first claiming that it was "sensitive security information," but also saying that it won't hand over the info because it's copyrighted material. Say what? This makes no sense. If it's US government documents, then it's almost certainly not covered by copyright. But even if it's a private company's documents and covered by copyright, there's nothing stopping it from being handed over to the court.


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    xenomancer (profile), Feb 15th, 2011 @ 9:42am

    Perhaps they're embarrassed the only relevant information they have is a manual with "place the human in the emitter chamber for 20 to 30 seconds or until given cancer, serve with an invasive pat down and a dignity sapping, condescending manner."

     

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    Ima Fish (profile), Feb 15th, 2011 @ 9:51am

    "If it's... But even if it's"

    The government would love to answer your question, but unfortunately the answer is copyrighted too.

     

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    Matt (profile), Feb 15th, 2011 @ 9:54am

    Secret law

    It's actually a secret law that allows them to refused, but it's so secret they can't even admit it's a secret law hence the somewhat ridiculous claims.

     

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    AlexT (profile), Feb 15th, 2011 @ 9:54am

    But... but... copyright!

     

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    AlexT (profile), Feb 15th, 2011 @ 10:10am

    Re:

    The copywritten material in question is a loop of "Divinyls - I Touch Myself" which is preinstalled on the screening computer.

     

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    Berenerd (profile), Feb 15th, 2011 @ 10:19am

    Re: Re:

    I hate you....

    ...now that song is stuck in my head...

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 15th, 2011 @ 10:22am

    The old "where there's smoke there's fire" applies. If they are not wanting to produce this info, then there is a reason they are uncomfortable with being exposed.

    Of course the judge could always view it in his chambers, separate from the court to decide, regardless of it's copyright status. It's amazing how many times copyright comes out as a reason to do things.

     

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    Anonymouse, Feb 15th, 2011 @ 10:27am

    Can I copyright my penis, so when TSA takes their silly scan photos they can be sued for copyright infringement?

     

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    V, Feb 15th, 2011 @ 10:33am

    Copyright...

    But... think... of the children...

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 15th, 2011 @ 10:34am

    Re:

    Make sure it is properly registered. That way you can get damages when the TSA starts selling images to augment their budget.
    Perhaps they would put it on their existing Puppy Gallery:
    http://www.tsa.gov/lawenforcement/programs/editorial_multi_image_0009.shtm

     

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    Dark Helmet (profile), Feb 15th, 2011 @ 10:34am

    Re:

    "Can I copyright my penis, so when TSA takes their silly scan photos they can be sued for copyright infringement?"

    Only if it's transformative and original, which is why I long ago replaced my biological phallus with a dual-tipped mega-wang made to look like it's wearing a Derrick Rose jersey....

     

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    J.J. (profile), Feb 15th, 2011 @ 10:44am

    Re:

    That might not be as stupid as it sounds.
    What if a plastic surgeon who designs their own implants go with this.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 15th, 2011 @ 11:11am

    Re: Re:

    I think the dual-tipped mega-wang Dark Helmet junk would fall under publicity rights and maybe trademark but not so sure about copyright.

    I bet if you added "On the Internet" you could manage to get a patent on it too.....

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 15th, 2011 @ 11:11am

    Re: Re:

    I just slapped a miniature Richard Nixon mask on mine.

     

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    Hephaestus (profile), Feb 15th, 2011 @ 11:30am

    Re: Re: Re:

    "I just slapped a miniature Richard Nixon mask on mine."

    Once a dick, always a dick ...

     

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    Hephaestus (profile), Feb 15th, 2011 @ 11:34am

    Re: Re: Re:

    Or was that tricky to do to your dick?

     

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    Marcel de Jong (profile), Feb 15th, 2011 @ 12:12pm

    Re: Re:

    copyrighted... it's not copywrite :P

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 15th, 2011 @ 12:13pm

    Re: Re: Re: Re:

    It wasn't that hard.

     

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    TSA Screener, Feb 15th, 2011 @ 12:31pm

    Re: Re: Re:

    Its hsrd to sprll on keybords using only 1 hand.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 15th, 2011 @ 1:39pm

    Disband the Govt. We're doomed.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 15th, 2011 @ 2:34pm

    Re: Copyright...

    and do not forget the kittens needlessly suffering as they view these images.

     

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    The eejit (profile), Feb 15th, 2011 @ 2:34pm

    Re: Copyright...

    What children? The ones being groped by TSA staff?

     

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    keiichi969 (profile), Feb 15th, 2011 @ 2:44pm

    Re: Re:

    I can guarantee mine is both original, and it transforms.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 15th, 2011 @ 6:05pm

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    No, your parents have to file the patent.

     

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    Everyone class action lawsuit, Feb 19th, 2011 @ 3:53am

    This needs to be eliminated before I fly. This is how the Nazis began in early Germany. Next thing u know you'll be getting groped before walking into the mall. Just watch this is a test to see if we will toe the line. We all have a vote and it's not for a puppet president rebub or dcrat. Our vote is fly if u will lay down. Do not fly if u stand up for you and your families degnity. Do u want your children and eldery parents to go through this in the future? Make a stand don't fly and let the airlines and goby officals know that this is illegal invasion of privacy. Start class action lawsuits natonwide.

     

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