Long Time Academic, Regular Op-Ed Writer, Claims He Had No Idea He Was Supposed To Attribute Text He Plagiarized

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This one is just bizarre. Romenesko points us to the news that the director of the University of Utah's Middle East Center, Dr. Bahman Baktiari, who regularly writes op-ed pieces for various newspapers, has been accused of plagiarism. His defense? He claims he had no idea he was supposed to attribute the content he copied. Plagiarism cases turn up here and there, but I think this may be the first time I've seen someone -- especially from an academic setting -- claim that they didn't even realize they were supposed to make it clear they did not write the content. And, it's not even like he picked obscure publications to copy. What brought this all to light was an op-ed he wrote for the Salt Lake City Tribune, which used at least four unattributed sources, including both the NY Times and the Economist. I guess that means if you're a student in one of his classes, you're now off the hook to copy at will without attribution...


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    Zauber Paracelsus (profile), Feb 16th, 2011 @ 4:10pm

    Argumentum ad Stupidus?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 16th, 2011 @ 4:20pm

    My thoughts on this issue

    This one is just bizarre. Romenesko points us to the news that the director of the University of Utah's Middle East Center, Dr. Bahman Baktiari, who regularly writes op-ed pieces for various newspapers, has been accused of plagiarism. His defense? He claims he had no idea he was supposed to attribute the content he copied. Plagiarism cases turn up here and there, but I think this may be the first time I've seen someone -- especially from an academic setting -- claim that they didn't even realize they were supposed to make it clear they did not write the content. And, it's not even like he picked obscure publications to copy. What brought this all to light was an op-ed he wrote for the Salt Lake City Tribune, which used at least four unattributed sources, including both the NY Times and the Economist. I guess that means if you're a student in one of his classes, you're now off the hook to copy at will without attribution...

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 16th, 2011 @ 4:38pm

    Re: My thoughts on this issue

    OMG

    PLay jar///&&&^&^

    pledgearina&&**&%^%

    u copied without eatribu.... atrition^^&*(*(*^ saying who from.

    Bethca thought we wudnt knotice.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 16th, 2011 @ 4:58pm

    I would love to see a student come forward with a syllabus or class notes showing that plagiarism and citing sources was covered in class.
    Although it probably can't be posted due to copyright restrictions.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 16th, 2011 @ 5:46pm

    Re: My thoughts on this issue

    My thoughts on this issue

    Anonymous Coward, Feb 16th, 2011 @ 4:20pm
    This one is just bizarre. Romenesko points us to the news that the director of the University of Utah's Middle East Center, Dr. Bahman Baktiari, who regularly writes op-ed pieces for various newspapers, has been accused of plagiarism. His defense? He claims he had no idea he was supposed to attribute the content he copied. Plagiarism cases turn up here and there, but I think this may be the first time I've seen someone -- especially from an academic setting -- claim that they didn't even realize they were supposed to make it clear they did not write the content. And, it's not even like he picked obscure publications to copy. What brought this all to light was an op-ed he wrote for the Salt Lake City Tribune, which used at least four unattributed sources, including both the NY Times and the Economist. I guess that means if you're a student in one of his classes, you're now off the hook to copy at will without attribution...
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    Paul Hobbs (profile), Feb 16th, 2011 @ 8:18pm

    Feedback please

    I am writing a book about the current state of the world, and where it is heading. Here is what I have written so far:

    "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to heaven, we were all going direct the other way - in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only."

    I would appreciate any feedback from the enlightened readers/commenters of TD.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 16th, 2011 @ 11:31pm

    Look at the total history and contributions of Dr. Baktiari to the U of U Middle East Center as I have. I believe he's done more for the U Middle East Center than anyone I've seen the past 10 years.

     

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    krusty-g (profile), Feb 17th, 2011 @ 1:01am

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    Not sure which way you're going with that. Is that a defense of him? "It's okay because he's done lots of stuff"?
    Or are you recommending that someone needs to have a look at all his work over the last 10 years, as since he claims he didn't know he was supposed to attribute there is a very high chance the rest of his work [or at least some of it] is plagiarised too?
    If it's the first one, shame on you. If it's the second then I concur.

     

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    Michael, Feb 17th, 2011 @ 5:02am

    University of Utah

    How embarrassed is the school going to be that this guy is one of their directors? It cannot be long before he is asked to resign.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 17th, 2011 @ 7:24am

    Let the hypocrite-fest begin

    And now let's see the local anti-copyright crowd come up with a reason to punish him for copying without a permission

     

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    Sean T Henry (profile), Feb 17th, 2011 @ 7:52am

    Re: Feedback please

    I would change it to fit a better audience (those who only fake reading while on the net).

    Troll edition
    "It was the best time and worst, it was the day of knowing stuff and being stupid. it was bright out and it was dark, it was the spring of (click here for porn), it was the winter of sad we had everything, before us nothing after we. US all going direct to the club.
    Was so far like the now, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on IP addresses being received, for or for the good of the children to prevent the evil that is only in comparison to the Masnic."

    now make looooooooooootttssssss of t-shirts.


    Sorry, you will need to work on it a bit as I'm not good at this trolling thing so you will need to figure out how to add in some irrelevant arguments and insults the the quote.

     

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    Sean T Henry (profile), Feb 17th, 2011 @ 8:08am

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    I have not looked into him but I'm guessing that he is not from the US and where he is from they are not as concerned about attributing. Alternatively he could be like several professors that think much of what they know is common knowledge so it does not need to be explained or attributed.

     

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    JustMe (profile), Feb 17th, 2011 @ 8:14am

    Paul's book

    This is just a compare & contrast piece. I fail to see how you plan to expand this out beyond a few pages. Eventually you are going to run out of things to say.

    I think the beginning is fine, but you'd be better diverging the thread to a new topic, perhaps using an analogy of roads in a yellow wood. You could talk about the thread you didn't take, then bring up something about how the first road is a wrathful, grape-flavored white whale.

    Good luck with your story!

     

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    RobShaver, Feb 17th, 2011 @ 8:51am

    As Wilson Mizner says ...

    As Wilson Mizner says, “When you take stuff from one writer it’s plagiarism, but when you take from many writers it’s called research.”

     

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    Chris Rhodes (profile), Feb 17th, 2011 @ 9:07am

    Re: Let the hypocrite-fest begin

    Doesn't have anything to do with "copying without permission". I don't need permission to cite someone else's research.

    It has to do with dishonestly claiming those words as his own. I'm of the opinion that any "punishment" should be social in nature, and not legal. He'll lose credibility, and perhaps his suffer repercussions in his career.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 17th, 2011 @ 2:07pm

    Re: Re: Let the hypocrite-fest begin

    If you don't condemn sampling the music, why are you condemning sampling the writing? Do I smell a double standard the size of a giant rotting whale?

     

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    faculty, Feb 20th, 2011 @ 1:53pm

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    In academia, people have thousands of pages of articles, book chapters and books. I am sure one can find two or three pages of passages from these pages that have a footnote missing, or a paragraph that is not quoted.

    I am not saying that plagerism is not an important topic, but political commentaries are not similar to scholarly articles, research data, grant proposals, and sponsored research. A simple reprimand should do the job here. I would be more concerned if he plagiarized a major grant proposal, or research of someone else.
    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2011-02/11/content_11980483.htm

     

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