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   John Doe, Jan 28th, 2011 @ 6:01am

   
   

   No such thing as a deleted photo

   The demand to delete the photo was stupid. There are several programs that can recover deleted photos from memory cards. So if you are stopped, delete the photos upon request then recover them when you get home.

    

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   justok (profile), Jan 28th, 2011 @ 6:03am

   
   

   ...currently...

    

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   Anonymous Coward, Jan 28th, 2011 @ 6:14am

   
   

   As an amateur photographer who owns some rather expensive equipment that would be extremely painful to relinquish to a federal employee, I applaud this decision.
   
   But I still won't roll the dice taking pictures of Federal buildings (some of which are rather nice examples of architecture). The damage has been done. The chilling has already happened.

    

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   Anonymous Coward, Jan 28th, 2011 @ 6:20am

   
   

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   if you ever change your mind make sure you have a copy of the bulletin on hand.

    

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   FarSide (profile), Jan 28th, 2011 @ 6:20am

   
   

   "The report does say they can go speak to the photographer to determine the purpose of the photography if they believe it's warranted."
   
   So at the end of the day, they can still bully you, and they can still be the judge and jury of whether you have a valid purpose for taking pictures. Because taking pictures in itself has no valid role, evidently.

    

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   Liz, Jan 28th, 2011 @ 6:21am

   
   

   Re: No such thing as a deleted photo

   Some sleight of hand and an extra $20 memory card is easier.

    

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   Call me Al, Jan 28th, 2011 @ 6:35am

   
   

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   "if you ever change your mind make sure you have a copy of the bulletin on hand."
   
   When I go wandering around London with my DSLR I always have a copy of a similar bulletin in the UK from the head of the Metropolitan police. It lives comfortably in my camera case.

    

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   Anonymous Coward, Jan 28th, 2011 @ 6:36am

   
   

   I don't know why you guys are all celebrating this like some sort of victory. Congratulations on letting terrorists win.

    

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   ChrisB (profile), Jan 28th, 2011 @ 6:43am

   
   

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   > letting terrorists win
   
   The terrorists win if you live in fear.
   
   One good punch and then a decade of head fakes have you wimpering in the corner. I think the terrorists have pretty much kicked your ass.

    

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    coldbrew, Jan 28th, 2011 @ 6:50am

    
    

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    That had to be sarcasm. I refuse to believe otherwise...

     

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    Dark Helmet (profile), Jan 28th, 2011 @ 7:18am

    
    

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    You know, I would've said the same thing, but after reading and hearing a great deal of local and nat'l media coverage (on a wholly unrelated and far out of perspective issue), I'm beginning to wonder....

     

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    Marcus Carab (profile), Jan 28th, 2011 @ 7:30am

    
    

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    To be fair, security and law enforcement personnel do need some level of discretionary power to investigate suspicious activities. That's kind of the whole purpose of their existence.
    
    It's true that there's still room for abuse here - but there always will be. It's a step in the right direction.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jan 28th, 2011 @ 7:32am

    
    

    Re: Re: No such thing as a deleted photo

    But also more evasive. If you get caught doing it, it will make them suspicious.
    
    It is much less risky to delete the photos, then take the card off the camera (very important! if you do more photos with the card, it can overwrite the deleted photos), and later in the safety of your hotel room, use PhotoRec to recover everything.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jan 28th, 2011 @ 7:38am

    
    

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    by the nature of being a terrorist they have already lost.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jan 28th, 2011 @ 7:42am

    
    

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    Because I'm a terrorist. We're throwing a party over this one. There will be pie and punch.

     

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    Eric, Jan 28th, 2011 @ 7:43am

    
    

    Actually have been hassled

    I'm a State employee and had my state employee ID on me and was STILL hassled for taking pictures of our federal courthouse. I had to show him the pictures I'd taken and show him my ID, him being the Federal courthouse security dude. Luckily a local policeman came over and calmed the security nutter down and let me go. I'm totally going to print this and go take more pictures now.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jan 28th, 2011 @ 7:47am

    
    

    So you can perhaps remember this thread when you suggest that Obama is worse than Bush on human rights, as the administration rolls back stupid rules like this and the color coded terror watch thing that had us all in fear (and laughter).

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jan 28th, 2011 @ 9:47am

    
    

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    To be fair, security and law enforcement personnel do need some level of discretionary power to investigate suspicious activities. That's kind of the whole purpose of their existence.
    
    Yeah, as long as it doesn't go too far. When it becomes obvious that's there's no more information that the subject can give you, you should stop the beating, excuse me, I mean "investigation".
    
    It's true that there's still room for abuse here - but there always will be. It's a step in the right direction.
    
    That's why they invented water-boarding. It's the kinder, gentler way.

     

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    Rekrul, Jan 28th, 2011 @ 10:14am

    
    

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    I don't know why you guys are all celebrating this like some sort of victory. Congratulations on letting terrorists win.
    
    Yes, because photos of the outside of a building are pivotal to a successful terrorist attack. I mean it's not like they can simply look at the building and remember what it looks like...

     

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    Thomas (profile), Jan 28th, 2011 @ 11:10am

    
    

    won't stop the police..

    If you are told by a police officer to stop taking pictures and hand over your camera, you better do as you or told. The street is not the place to argue civil liberties. Arguing about it is a good way to get thrown to the ground, beaten, handcuffed, and arrested for resisting arrest.
    
    No sane person argues with an armed police officer on the street. Arguing is a good way to get yourself in serious trouble. Just shut up and kiss his ass if he tells you to.

     

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    ChrisB (profile), Jan 28th, 2011 @ 11:15am

    
    

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    I'm as serious as the AC who suggests that if we're not living in constant state of paranoid fear, we've let the terrorist win.

     

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    Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Jan 28th, 2011 @ 12:49pm

    
    

    Re: No sane person argues with an armed police officer on the street.

    Another good reason why our police officers are not armed.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jan 28th, 2011 @ 3:08pm

    
    

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    They can of course check out a building before hand, but by using photography they can spend hours locating CCTV, blind spots, places to plant bombs and so on.
    
    Loitering around an area jotting down notes and sketches is going to arouse a lot more suspicion than taking a few quick snaps on an SLR.
    
    Let's just hope law enforcement continue foil would be terrorists, regardless of this silly notice.

     

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    NoelArmourson, Jan 28th, 2011 @ 4:26pm

    
    

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    SLR? Doesn't such a conspicuous camera just draw attention?
    If someone were doing photo reconnaisance he could unobtrusively use a camera phone or small inexpensive point-and-shoot and get perfectly usable photos.
    At this time, I've yet to see evidence of photography actually being used to plot terrorist attacks.

     

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    Thomas (profile), Jan 28th, 2011 @ 6:02pm

    
    

    Re: Re: No sane person argues with an armed police officer on the street.

    You obviously don't live in the U.S., where cops are armed to the teeth. At least a pistol, usually a taser, and often a backup pistol somewhere. In the car often a shotgun as well.

     

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    Squidoo (profile), Jan 28th, 2011 @ 8:19pm

    
    

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    Noel, you make so much sense that I wish you'd been around the day someone called the cops on me for taking photos of the UN from Queens with an SLR. The local precinct sent TWO squad cars for little ol' me (short Indian woman) to find out what I was up to. To be fair, it was 2002, and we all thought another attack was imminent, but it was still a pretty nervewracking experience. :)

     

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    AMusingFool, Jan 28th, 2011 @ 9:02pm

    
    

    capital building

    I wonder if this means that I can now take a picture of the Capital Building using a tripod, and without having a permit.

     

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    Proffer (profile), Jan 29th, 2011 @ 5:24am

    
    

    for now.

    Notice they say, "there are currently no general security regulations prohibiting".. Yeah they're sure going to start pushing for an amendment to some law stuffed in another obscure bill, to fix that.

     

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    Mohammed the terrorist, Jan 31st, 2011 @ 4:38am

    
    

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    Comedy gold.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jan 31st, 2011 @ 4:39am

    
    

    Re: won't stop the police..

    Christ, have you guys given in already? Here, put this star on.

     

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    btr1701 (profile), Feb 1st, 2011 @ 4:33pm

    
    

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    > Congratulations on letting terrorists win.
    
    Yep. They just weakened a nation today.

     

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    reno nevada injury attorney, Sep 12th, 2011 @ 11:33pm

    
    

    It is really a good news..Otherwise, many of the people would be arrested unnecessarily

     

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    reno nevada injury attorney, Sep 12th, 2011 @ 11:33pm

    
    

    It is really a good news..Otherwise, many of the people would be arrested unnecessarily

     

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    Rich, Sep 14th, 2011 @ 2:31pm

    
    

    evidence

    There is no evidence that a photographer was used, involved in a terrorist attack.

     

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    aquamarine (profile), Dec 9th, 2011 @ 1:16pm

    
    

    in plain view now

    I don't get it? Goggle Maps has gone up and down almost every street etc......everywhere in the world for Christ's sake! There are street views, overhead views, zooming in, zooming out, etc.........
    
    To think that an 'anyone' w/a camera is or may be doing something nefarious is flat out absurd. This whole issue is one to keep us diverted on the minute details of issues versus the wholesale slaughter of our privacy that is and was being done now and w/in the last decade and a half.
    
    This is a non-issue imho.

     

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