End Result Of HADOPI? Higher ISP Fees

from the but-is-anyone-buying-more? dept

It's not like people didn't warn everyone what would happen with various three strikes laws. The costs for ISPs were widely discussed, even if the recording industry lobbyists insisted they were overblown. Yet, here we are, a few months into France's HADOPI implementation of three strikes, and French ISPs are already warning users that they need to jack up fees to pay for compliance with HADOPI. And, of course, no one has provided any evidence that kicking people off the internet for file sharing makes anyone any more likely to buy. So, now, not only are people less inclined to buy just in general, but they have less money, because they have to pay more to their ISP. How's that going to save the recording industry's old business again?


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    Pixelation, Jan 3rd, 2011 @ 7:29pm

    But...

    Just think of all the extra jobs created by HADOPI!

     

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    ChurchHatesTucker (profile), Jan 3rd, 2011 @ 7:30pm

    Duh.

    Because they'll have all the extra money they've saved by not having internet access to spend on CDs.

    You don't really think like an industry lawyer, Mike.

     

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    monkyyy, Jan 3rd, 2011 @ 7:31pm

    this will most defiantly hurt the online game market, it needs to be removed to 'save' that media

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jan 3rd, 2011 @ 7:46pm

    The French are a bunch of bit@@es..... Also, they may suck my A@@

     

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      Qritiqal (profile), Jan 3rd, 2011 @ 7:50pm

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      Why don't you keep your @@@@ing @@@@ sh@t and go @@@@ it @@@ @@@ @@@@@@@@@@@?

       

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      Nick Taylor, Jan 3rd, 2011 @ 9:41pm

      Francais

      Yea - I presume from your spelling of "ass" and the fact that you're so repressed that you self-censor it that you're of that species of American who first started hating The French at about the same time you first heard of them - when they were disobedient to America over the Iraq war.

      You should have listened to them... they'd have saved you about 3 trillion dollars (according to J Stiglitz)...

      ... however, you shouldn't be "bitching" about them now, because this 3-strike thing was all done to be obedient to America. http://bit.ly/esfhzC

      Instead you should be "bitching" about Spain, who had the spine (when they found out that 3-Strikes is an American invention) to throw the law out.

      Comprende?

       

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        btr1701 (profile), Jan 4th, 2011 @ 3:33pm

        Re: Francais

        > You should have listened to them... they'd have saved you
        > about 3 trillion dollars

        Nah, it wouldn't have. The Dems would have just said, "Oh, look! An extra $3 trillion. Now how can we manage to flush that down the shitter too?"

         

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    Anonymous Coward, Jan 3rd, 2011 @ 8:16pm

    Imagine how much lower ISP fees would be if people just stopped breaking the law.

    No wait, let's blame it on everything else except the obvious.

     

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      Pixelation, Jan 3rd, 2011 @ 8:33pm

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      We could blame it on the obvious troll...

       

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        Anonymous Coward, Jan 4th, 2011 @ 12:11am

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          Not an electronic Rodent, Jan 4th, 2011 @ 2:02am

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          Really? I'd never noticed that it wasn't supposed to do both. By the way... geek points for morse use. Fantastic. I lose points though as I had to go find an online translator.....

           

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          Anonymous Coward, Jan 4th, 2011 @ 7:29am

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      Rose M. Welch (profile), Jan 3rd, 2011 @ 8:42pm

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      So you believe that the end of piracy would bring about the end of Hadopi? Really?

       

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        abc gum, Jan 4th, 2011 @ 4:30am

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        Zing ...
        Good one !

         

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        Anonymous Coward, Jan 4th, 2011 @ 5:18am

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        Rose, pretty logical conclusion, don't you think? Hadopi exists because there is piracy. Remove the piracy, and what would they do all day? Perhaps in some bizarre twist of French logic, they would end up patrolling the internet for ignorant home schooling moms, but otherwise, they wouldn't have much left to do.

        A caused B. Remove A, and B no longer needs to exist.

        Think of this as the (not so) hidden costs of piracy.

         

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          Anonymous Coward, Jan 4th, 2011 @ 5:35am

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          ahahahaha, nice oone

           

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          CrushU, Jan 4th, 2011 @ 10:08am

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          I'm marking that comment as Funny.

          'end up' patrolling the internet... Ah haha...
          'Hadopi exists because there is piracy', ahhh, priceless. You are a master of humor, sir.

           

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          Anonymous Coward, Jan 4th, 2011 @ 11:01am

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          YOUR logic is messed up.

          Let's see:

          A: Bullet in head
          B: Death

          So, according to you, by removing the bullet from the head of someone who got shot, suddenly he'll start living again.

          Masterful conclusion!

           

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          Vincent Clement (profile), Jan 4th, 2011 @ 11:07am

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          You really don't understand how government agencies operate, do you? If terrorism is wiped out, do you think the Department of Homeland Security would be eliminated?

           

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          Rose M. Welch (profile), Jan 4th, 2011 @ 8:36pm

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          You're such a cute little stalker.

          Can you name one agency that was closed when it's purpose was fulfilled?

           

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      Anonymous Coward, Jan 3rd, 2011 @ 9:24pm

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      CULTURE HARD!!!

       

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      RadialSkid (profile), Jan 3rd, 2011 @ 11:45pm

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      Yeah, and there'd be no starvation if those emaciated third world people you see on TV would just eat something.

      Brilliant solutions for real problems!

       

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      Richard (profile), Jan 4th, 2011 @ 1:32pm

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      Imagine how much lower ISP fees would be if people just stopped breaking the law.

      No wait, let's blame it on everything else except the obvious.


      Imagine how much air fares would be if gravity just stopped.

       

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    Wolfy, Jan 3rd, 2011 @ 9:21pm

    But think of the children!!

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jan 3rd, 2011 @ 9:40pm

    Bankrupting and destroying other people's lives is the true way how the Industries make their money like the parasites they are.

    Well remember we live under capitalism...

     

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    sebsauvage, Jan 3rd, 2011 @ 11:49pm

    It has nothing to do with HADOPI.

    It has nothing to do with HADOPI. This surge in price is only due to a recent change in VAT.

     

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      Alex, Jan 4th, 2011 @ 1:15am

      Re: It has nothing to do with HADOPI.

      The change in VAT is only responsible for a maximum of 3 or so.

      Free has itemized their bill so that the TV portion of it (the part that the VAT is applied to) works out to only 2 and so the extra tax on that is about 20 cents.

       

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    Anonymous Coward, Jan 4th, 2011 @ 2:00am

    EMI R.I.P.

    http://www.musicdish.com/mag/?id=12797

    Anybody feeling sorry for them in France?

     

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    milrtime83 (profile), Jan 4th, 2011 @ 4:27am

    Seeing how ISP's are just as corrupt and always looking for an excuse to raise prices, they could just be using HADOPI as one of those reasons whether it is really a significant cost to them or not.

     

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    abc gum, Jan 4th, 2011 @ 4:33am

    Their real goal it to kill the internet - and piracy is simply the excuse.

     

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    abc gum, Jan 4th, 2011 @ 5:37am

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jan 4th, 2011 @ 7:09am

    But I like being ripped off by the RIAA and whoever they represent. I bought the new Keith Urban CD and got totally burned. I got 8 songs for $14.99 with only 1 memorable song. I won't buy the next full CD. I will buy the 1 song download (maybe). Once bitten, twice and forever shy.

     

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    Karl (profile), Jan 4th, 2011 @ 12:26pm

    Another effect of HADOPI

    Let's not forget another effect of HADOPI: an increase in piracy levels.

    No matter how you look at it, HADOPI is an epic fail.

     

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    egbert, Jan 5th, 2011 @ 7:59am

    isn't it strange how, when warned that ISPs costs would increase, recording industry lobbyists insisted the figures were overblown. if selling less media means the entertainment industries lose money, then selling less internet connection contracts must mean ISPs lose money. as has been said many times in many places, the entertainment industries lie continuously about how much they are 'losing'. when anyone else predicts losses and price increases, because of what the entertainment industries are doing, they are told it wont happen/no need, losses will be minimal. shows the lack of concern for anyone other than themselves. the sooner other companies realise that they are going to bear the brunt of what the entertainment industries are doing to the internet, and start to fight against it, the better.

     

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