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   Don't you wish we could fast-forward 20 years...

   

   Qritiqal (profile), Nov 4th, 2010 @ 8:16pm

   
   

   Until we're past all this BS, the music industry (as we know it now) is dead, and everyone is happily enjoying their entertainment and that the entertainers are getting paid via REALISTIC business models?

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   Re: Don't you wish we could fast-forward 20 years...

   

   Anonymous Coward, Nov 4th, 2010 @ 8:39pm

   
   

   20 Years... really? I give them less than 10.

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   Anonymous Coward, Nov 4th, 2010 @ 9:14pm

   
   

   id rather watch em burn at this point, im just worried about all the incredibly stupid laws we will be left with cause of their lobbyists

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   Presumably that means.....?

   

   Anonymous Coward, Nov 5th, 2010 @ 3:38am

   
   

   The case gets even stranger, since apparently Ministry of Sound doesn't even hold the copyright to the music tracks it's complaining about, but merely to the track listings on the album.

   So by that rationale once you have the music in your media player, if you re-number the tracks to a different order and delete or don't download the ones you didn't like anyway you can tell them to go urinate up a hawser? I'd like to see that work in practice.
   Of course the actual creator would still have grounds....
   
   Me, I'm off to copyright my shopping list then will sue Ocado when their online "your favorites" shopping basket puts the things I buy in the same order as me. :-)

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   Pathetic

   

   AJ, Nov 5th, 2010 @ 4:09am

   
   

   This is just pathetic, how in the hell can the music industry/government claim that it's not about the money, it's about protecting the rights holders, then turn around and make a statement like the one below.
   
   " it makes no economic sense to continue with this application."
   
   Despite the setback, the firm said that it was now "more determined than ever to go after internet users who illegally upload our copyrighted material".
   
   .....should read.....
   
   ..more determined than ever (as long as we can make a pile of money doing it) to go after the internet users who illegally upload our copyrighted material....

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   Re: Re: Don't you wish we could fast-forward 20 years...

   

   Anonymous Coward, Nov 5th, 2010 @ 4:19am

   
   

   I said that 10 years ago. Progress 0, Regress 1.

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   Anonymous Coward, Nov 5th, 2010 @ 5:43am

   
   

   Who or what the hell is BT? What a lousy article. Using an acronym instead of the real words. Who knows but you what a BT is?

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   Ministry of Sound

   

   Gene Cavanaugh, Nov 5th, 2010 @ 6:28am

   
   

   1. I had to google "ministry of sound" to even know what you were talking about - and while I found out, I wonder now why I bothered.
   2. At the beginning it is clear they will abandon lawsuits, at the end it is equally clear they will increase them. I suppose this is logical in the music business???
   3. Why is so much space wasted on such garbage?

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   Anonymous Coward, Nov 5th, 2010 @ 6:39am

   
   

   Who or what the hell is BT? What a lousy article. Using an acronym instead of the real words. Who knows but you what a BT is?

   BT: what used to be British Telecom once upon a time, but now trades as BT (possibly because of the american penchant for automatically disliking anything with another country name in the title) and operates internationally including in the US. So in this case the acronym IS the trading name and entirely accurate to use.

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    PaulT (profile), Nov 5th, 2010 @ 6:41am

    
    

    "A BT" is a company that's been trading as BT since 1991, the year when it changed its full trading name from British Telecom to BT. What other name would you suggest should be used in their article, other than the company's full trading name?

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    At least they've got the right name

    

    DannyB (profile), Nov 5th, 2010 @ 7:51am

    
    

    Ministry of Sound?
    
    Is that like the following from George Orwell's 1984:
    
    

    • Ministry of Peace: the government arm responsible for ensuring a state of perpetual war.
    • Ministry of Plenty: the government arm responsible for ensuring there is barely enough food.
    • Ministry of Truth: the arm the story's main character works in, responsible for destroying all traces of any records contrary to whatever the government is saying today. If the government says a certain person never existed, then his job is to ensure there is no record that person ever existed.
    • Ministry of Love: the government arm that imprisons and tortures people guilty of "thoughtcrime", or (gasp!) heaven forbid actually speaking dangerous words critical of the wonderful society that has been so good to them.

    
    So while not an {appendage | tool | member | organ} of the government, the Ministry of Sound sues people over track listings of titles on albums? Sounds about right to me. Welcome to 1984.

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    I've always liked BT as a DJ...

    

    Dave (profile), Nov 6th, 2010 @ 2:43pm

    
    

    ...but the fact that he respects user privacy, too? Man, that's awesome. Ministry of Sound shouldn't be pissing on him for this.

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    Track listings are not protectable expression.

    

    Androgynous Cowherd, Nov 7th, 2010 @ 11:49am

    
    

    Track listings are not protectable expression, any more than recipes or phone book listings are. Album art, lyrics, and other album-leaflet content with some element of original expression will be copyrightable, but a simple listing of the tracks on an album and their sequence on that album would seem to be a dry listing of factual data.

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    music industry is dead

    

    free file hosting, Nov 19th, 2010 @ 7:22pm

    
    

    I really believe that music industry is trying their best to survive. But people are on still supporting what the free music that they get.

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    music industry is dead

    

    free file hosting, Nov 19th, 2010 @ 7:22pm

    
    

    I really believe that music industry is trying their best to survive. But people are on still supporting what the free music that they get.

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