Reader Comments (rss)

(Flattened / Threaded)

1.  

   

   Simon, Sep 28th, 2010 @ 11:44am

   
   

   BSkyB finally challenging them too...

   http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/blog/2010/sep/28/bskyb-acslaw-filesharing "UK's fourth largest broadband provider says it will no longer cooperate with controversial law firm"

   Of course, it would have been nice if they'd done that from the start. When compelled to hand over IP addresses by court order, I would love an ISP to add some covering text along the lines of :

   Please find attached the subscriber details that our records show was leasing the IP address xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx on [date | time]. Note that this information pertains only to the person paying for the account, and does not identify individual users or devices.

    

   [ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

2.  

   

   Alias (profile), Sep 28th, 2010 @ 11:45am

   
   

   ACS: Law

   Can't wait for the pre-settlement threat letter from PI to arrive. :)

    

   [ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

3.  

   

   Richard (profile), Sep 28th, 2010 @ 11:50am

   
   

   UK TV News

   This has been all over the mainstream media in the UK - including BBC news - so this particular cat is

    

   [ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

4.  

   

   Hephaestus (profile), Sep 28th, 2010 @ 11:53am

   
   

   This really doesnt seem to be all that profitable any more ....

   "The Information Commissioner has said a fine of £500,000 could be levied upon ACS:Law, which also faces a disciplinary tribunal by the Solicitors Regulation Authority, legal action by pressure group Privacy International and legal action from people it apparently wrongly-identified as downloading illegal material."
   
   I would be neat if RIAA and MPAA e-mails became public. It would clean all of the RIAA lawyers out the Justice department.

    

   [ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

5.  

   

   Anonymous Coward, Sep 28th, 2010 @ 12:01pm

   
   

   Re: This really doesnt seem to be all that profitable any more ....

   "It would clean all of the RIAA lawyers out the Justice "
   
   But just like zombies, there are always more to take their place.....

    

   [ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

6.  

   

   Anonymous Coward, Sep 28th, 2010 @ 12:28pm

   
   

   This has the makings of a fine new soap opera. I shall call it "As the Worm Turns".

    

   [ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

7.  

   

   Dark Helmet (profile), Sep 28th, 2010 @ 12:32pm

   
   

   Re:

   Huh. That actually IS way better than "General Hostile"....

    

   [ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

8.  

   

   John Doe, Sep 28th, 2010 @ 12:32pm

   
   

   Reduced ROI

   This should reduce the ROI on these lawsuits.

    

   [ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

9.  

   

   Claire Rand, Sep 28th, 2010 @ 12:42pm

   
   

   Don't Forget...

   Firstly a fine of "up to £500,000" could be the sort of "up to" your ISP uses so don't expect much, though I do think something will happen this time, just not much more than a public ticking off.
   
   Also PI... ahhh yes, wasn't it one of their bods who was fine with the likes of phorm and their nasty little scam? perhaps ACS:Law should have hired him to produce a few statements.
   
   The very fact that scams like this fall apart once people know about them is why the people trying to push them want this to end up much more criminal so they don't have the costs.
   
   Slightly surprised the BBC is covering it though, they are normally more likely to point out the evils of file sharing. Maybe some things are slowly changing, at least until the blue/yellow ones yank the chain tight again.

    

   [ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

10.  

    

    Anonymous Coward, Sep 28th, 2010 @ 12:43pm

    
    

    Re: BSkyB finally challenging them too...

    I love that! Make it so.

     

    [ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

11.  

    

    Duke (profile), Sep 28th, 2010 @ 12:58pm

    
    

    Coverage

    If you look at the MSM, it is only really being covered by the BBC and the Guardian (both fairly anti-Sky) and they are going with the "people" story of the personal details being available, not all the legal or file-sharing stuff. They've also really pushed the porn access. In particular, the BBC headlines refer to the "Porn list" and "Adult video-sharing list" - and they are still referring to "illegal filesharing" (admittedly with "alleged" sneaking in occasionally).
    
    There are two sides to this story; one is the personal data leak, which is what the ICO, Privacy International and the MSM are all discussing, and then there is the details about the legal practice, the "scaring", the dismissal of justice and due process, the back-door deals with ISPs, and the estimates for what the "actual" damages would be in a fairl trial etc. which, hopefully, the SRA will deal with, but the media are ignoring.

     

    [ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

12.  

    

    Hosermage (profile), Sep 28th, 2010 @ 1:03pm

    
    

    Re:

    Actually, the name "ACS: Law" sound close enough to quite a few popular shows already.

     

    [ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

13.  

    

    chris (profile), Sep 28th, 2010 @ 2:27pm

    
    

    Re: Re:

    Actually, the name "ACS: Law" sound close enough to quite a few popular shows already.
    
    i think all of those shows don't do enough to differentiate themselves. they should be titled by their most distinguishing characteristics:
    
    CSI: cute goth girl
    the show with ice-T
    law and order: sunglasses guy

     

    [ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

14.  

    

    Anonymous Coward, Sep 28th, 2010 @ 5:19pm

    
    

    Re: Don't Forget...

    Blue/yellow ones?

     

    [ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

15.  

    

    hmm, Sep 29th, 2010 @ 2:10am

    
    

    Various news sites are saying sky broadband now won't co-operate with ACS:LAW...
    
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/11430299
    
    I assume other providers will have to follow suit, because knowing that ACS:LAW is deliberately posting peoples names, credit card info etc (perhaps as a way to 'punish' them more?), they open themselves to liability by offering customer data.

     

    [ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

16.  

    

    The eejit (profile), Sep 29th, 2010 @ 2:47am

    
    

    What are the odds that BSkyB were one of TWO ISPs co-operating with this? After all, BSkyB is a part of Newscorp.

     

    [ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

17.  

    

    ethorad (profile), Sep 29th, 2010 @ 3:15am

    
    

    Re: Re: Don't Forget...

    Presumably a reference to the coalition government in the UK - Conservative (blue) and Liberal Democrats (yellow). Because the BBC is a public broadcaster the government has various levers to use on the BBC, such as setting the level of the licence fee which funds the BBC.

     

    [ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

18.  

    

    Anonymous Coward, Sep 29th, 2010 @ 4:33am

    
    

    Re: Re: Re: Don't Forget...

    Ah, thanks. I figured it had something to do with the UK political system, but the allusion went right over my head.

     

    [ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

19.  

    

    Call me Al, Sep 29th, 2010 @ 6:41am

    
    

    Re: Don't Forget...

    "Slightly surprised the BBC is covering it though, they are normally more likely to point out the evils of file sharing. Maybe some things are slowly changing, at least until the blue/yellow ones yank the chain tight again."
    
    Like with the 4chan thing a few weeks ago. The BBC actually presented the story and that it was in retaliation for anti-piracy efforts rather than just a random attack. I was pretty happy to see BBC actually present both sides on such an issue.

     

    [ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

20.  

    

    dave, Sep 29th, 2010 @ 11:47am

    
    

    nelson says: HA HA! :)

     

    [ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]

Add Your Comment