Contest-Winning Poster To Promote Copyright Protection... Copied From Another Artist

from the define-irony dept

Reader A alerts us to this amusing story out of Taiwan, where it turns out that a student who won a contest put on by the country's Intellectual Property Office, involving creating a poster to promote strong copyright protection, has been stripped of his prize after it was discovered that the poster was copied from a Dutch artist. The student has been ordered to return the approximately $1,600 he was awarded. What's not clear is if the student was really just pranking the Intellectual Property Office or what. Separately, there's this conundrum: if the Intellectual Property Office felt that a copied poster was the most successful in promoting respect of copyright, by taking away the prize are they actually harming their own case?


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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 24th, 2010 @ 11:52am

    Or it could actually be a stunt.

    They get a contest "winner" to copy some guy's work so they can come up and say "We take intellectual property so seriously that we won't tolerate any kind of copying/plagiarism/whatever, even if it was done by the contest's winner" so they can claim that they are, not only useful, but essential to defend artist's rights.

     

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    Chronno S. Trigger (profile), Sep 24th, 2010 @ 11:59am

    Are they that afraid of copying?

    Are they so afraid of this Dutch artist that they won't even post a picture of the winning poster? Every single article I click on has the same picture of people on the subway, but no one has a picture of the poster or the original.

    I'll let Dark Helmet take this conspiracy.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 24th, 2010 @ 12:08pm

    At the end of the article the IP Office warns that the former winner could be on the hook for statutory damages should the Dutch artist sue. They conveniently leave out their contribution to the infringement.

    Also - if an official IP protection office wasn't able to discern any infringement at the time of the award, how is anyone else, like YouTube or an ISP, supposed to do it, as so many rightsholders demand?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 24th, 2010 @ 12:14pm

    They can't win. Copying is so prevalent that trying to stop it is like trying to boil the ocean. Time and time again it is shown that even those who say copying is the most evil sin in the face of the world will copy from someone else without authorization. Copying is part of the human nature, it is how our culture and technology evolved and will continue to evolve.

     

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    Dark Helmet (profile), Sep 24th, 2010 @ 12:26pm

    Re: Are they that afraid of copying?

    "I'll let Dark Helmet take this conspiracy."

    I can only assume that the picture in the poster includes an embedded image of the Prophet Muhammad fondling a quadriped.

    Tasteless, tasteless Dutch....

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 24th, 2010 @ 12:27pm

    Re:

    Yes, copying is an integral part of human nature. To wit:

    Copying test answers from the person sitting next to you.

    Copying a term paper.

    Copying information shared in confidence and then disclosing it in violation of the confidence.

    Copying your co-worker's work product and then passing it off as your own.

    Copying.....

    Copying.....

    Copying.....

    And for those who will inevitably say "But it screws your reputation.", it is useful to bear in mind that this only happens when one is caught with their hand in the cookie jar.

    Lots of things are human nature, but as a society we have determined that some are acceptable and some are not.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 24th, 2010 @ 12:29pm

    What does "Held for moderation" mean when it comes up after uploading a comment? I thought comments here are unmoderated.

     

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    drewmerc (profile), Sep 24th, 2010 @ 12:37pm

    this guy can have a hundred internet's if he did this as a joke
    if not he's just a thief trying to scam some money

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 24th, 2010 @ 12:37pm

    This is what's called performance art.

     

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    Dark Helmet (profile), Sep 24th, 2010 @ 12:40pm

    Re:

    "this guy can have a hundred internet's if he did this as a joke"

    A hundred internet's what???!!! Come on, the suspense is killing me. What belonging to the internet are you giving away!!!???

     

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    Travis, Sep 24th, 2010 @ 12:42pm

    Re:

    They have a spam filter that scans all the comments. Anyone can have them double check its results though. They don't permenantly remove non-spam comments though.

     

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    Greg G, Sep 24th, 2010 @ 12:46pm

    Good artists...

    Picasso once said, Good artists copy, great artists steal.

    This kis is apparently a great artist, destined for bigger and better things.

    But, I kinda hope he was pranking them. Serves them right.

     

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    Comboman (profile), Sep 24th, 2010 @ 12:58pm

    Re: Are they that afraid of copying?

    You can see a picture of the poster here. The article is in Dutch, but from the Google translation, apparently the Dutch artist was amused by the situation (the name of the original artwork is "Truth").

     

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    Mike Masnick (profile), Sep 24th, 2010 @ 1:05pm

    Re:

    What does "Held for moderation" mean when it comes up after uploading a comment? I thought comments here are unmoderated.

    It means your comment got caught in the spam filter, which we check every few hours. I went in and released your comment. I think the key thing that triggered it was the use of the phrase "term paper" as we get a ton of "buy your term paper" spammers here.

    The spam filter weighs a bunch of factors, but certain phrases really are closely associated with spam.

     

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    Dark Helmet (profile), Sep 24th, 2010 @ 1:19pm

    Re: Re:

    What does the term "paper" mean?

    ;)

     

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    Dark Helmet (profile), Sep 24th, 2010 @ 1:22pm

    Re: Re: Are they that afraid of copying?

    "apparently the Dutch artist was amused by the situation"

    Jesus Christ, why the hell are the Dutch watching Jersey Shore?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 24th, 2010 @ 1:24pm

    Re: Re:

    There is a huge difference between "copying" and "passing off as your own".

    All your examples except the third one include "passing off as your own" (copying test answers but saying it was you who answered them; copying a term paper and saying it was you who wrote it; and so on).

    The third one (leaking information) is a different case: breaking someone's trust on you. People also do that all the time (see Wikileaks), but a digression on the ethics of "leaking" is beyond the scope here.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 24th, 2010 @ 1:26pm

    Re: Re:

    Thanks for saying this, because my answer to him just got caught in the same net, and since you mentioned the cause I know why.

     

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    drewmerc (profile), Sep 24th, 2010 @ 1:42pm

    Re: Re:

     

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    Dark Helmet (profile), Sep 24th, 2010 @ 1:48pm

    Re: Re: Re:

     

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    Chronno S. Trigger (profile), Sep 24th, 2010 @ 2:02pm

    Re: Re:

    The consequences of copying are grater then being caught while one is doing it. Being put on the spot latter on in life and not being able to perform is one hell of a consequence. This is the main reason why we discourage copying test answers or co-worker's work. It's effects are grater then "you've been naughty".

    Continuing others work is something different and should be differentiated accordingly.

    A violation of confidence shouldn't even be brought up in this conversation, quit bringing up completely unrelated things.

     

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    AW, Sep 24th, 2010 @ 2:12pm

    found the artist

    Artists original is here :http://www.damnengine.net/
    Actually seems like he's pretty damned level headed about it.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 24th, 2010 @ 2:24pm

    Re: Re: Re: Are they that afraid of copying?

    Pot's legal there, maybe Jersey Shore is entertaining when stoned out of your mind?

     

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    Angry Puppy (profile), Sep 24th, 2010 @ 2:30pm

    Re: Re: Re: Are they that afraid of copying?

    Well, there's nothing amusing about "The Situation" in Jersey Shore.

     

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    Karl (profile), Sep 24th, 2010 @ 5:44pm

    Jail time?

    Note the end of the article:

    if the Dutch artist filed a lawsuit against Wu, he could face a jail term of up to three years or a fine of 750,000 Taiwan dollars.

    Exactly how much more "protection" does copyright need in Taiwan?

     

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    The Groove Tiger (profile), Sep 24th, 2010 @ 8:59pm

    Re: Re: Are they that afraid of copying?

    Well, they do share a border with the Belgians...

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 25th, 2010 @ 1:25am

    Re: Jail time?

    They'd like to be able to cut off his hands. See how much copying he does then.

     

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    Johnny, Sep 26th, 2010 @ 3:15pm

    Original

    I guess this is the original:
    http://damnengine.deviantart.com/art/Truth-73963882

    The Malaysia News story assumes a lot. For one that it was copied without permission. Even if it was without permission, who's to say the Dutch artist wouldn't be happier to take a share of the prize money instead of having the poster pulled.

     

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    anothermike, Sep 27th, 2010 @ 12:00pm

    Re: found the artist

    Hey, it's award-winning artwork. Why wouldn't he be proud of it?

     

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