BP Photoshopping Goes From Bad To Ridiculously Bad

from the oh-come-on dept

With BP finally admitting it Photoshopped an image showing its "oil spill response center," it appears that people are finding all sorts of ridiculously bad photoshops done by BP in describing its response to the oil spill. Take, for example, the photo below:
It doesn't take long to realize that the helicopter cockpit you're looking at is not actually in the air at all. In the upper lefthand corner, above the pilot's head, you can see an air traffic control tower. Oops. And, at the link above, they also zoom in on some of the panel instrumentation, suggesting that the door and ramp are open and the parking brake is engaged. Oh, and that document in the pilot's hand? Pre-flight checklist.

Perhaps BP is practicing in an effort to Photoshop the oil out of the gulf... However, somehow, I get the feeling it would leave some... artifacts.


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    cc (profile), Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 4:39am

    Shame on you! How can you disrespect trademark law like that! http://tinyurl.com/3xvnv8z

    ;)

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 4:58am

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    nice find cc

     

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    nunya_bidness, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 5:10am

    open source response

    maybe you could say the photo was gimped

     

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    Daee frru, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 5:15am

    LOL...The pilot's fingers are crossed

     

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    NAMELESS.ONE, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 5:17am

    look at the gauges

    all showing they aren't off the ground HAHA.
    can they get fined for false evidence and defrauding the public?

     

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    NAMELESS.ONE, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 5:18am

    What else are they lying about

    ??? what else are they lying about???

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 5:25am

    It also takes both hands to fly a chopper and both pilots have a free hand.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 5:31am

    I think I hear the 'care' police driving up!

    Seriously though... Who cares what BP does? No one cared enough to help them clean up the oil spill which directly affects us... especially Louisiana.

    It's just my personal opinion that if your not part of the solution then you have no right to criticize BP for failing at life.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 5:36am

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    6/10

    reasonable sounding, you'll get a few bites.

     

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    gilroy0 (profile), Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 5:38am

    Didn't Colbert already cover BP photoshopping the spill?

    Why, yes, yes he did... on July 10.

    When the news is starting to follow the parody news sites, we've truly disappeared down the rabbit hole...

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 5:44am

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    "Seriously though... Who cares what BP does? No one cared enough to help them clean up the oil spill which directly affects us... especially Louisiana. "

    Oh, I do care. But to help out in the gulf being a "small" people. I'd die in 10 years, respiratory issues internal hemorrhaging, liver/kidney failure thanks to the 2 million gallons of dispersant in the water.

    If your not a "specialist", BP Company men or the Coast Guard you are NOT getting proper safety equipment for this clean up.

     

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    John Doe, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 5:48am

    Who is doing their PR?

    Whoever they have running their PR campaign should be fired.

     

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    abc gum, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 5:58am

    Re: Re:

    You're too kind.
    I give it a 1

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 6:12am

    I don't think BP is doing anything nefarious with the photoshops...sorry, images enhanded with Adobe(R) Photoshop(R) Elements(R). They're not a news organization so they don't realize that people feel you're being dishonest when you do stuff like this. Hell, even actual news organizations can't get it right. Remember the Economist photoshopping their cover?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 6:16am

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    Broken link.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 6:22am

    Re: Didn't Colbert already cover BP photoshopping the spill?

    Well, no, he didn't. He was covering The Economist photoshopping the spill. Still funny, though.

     

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    Meoip, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 6:24am

    Re: look at the gauges

    If this pattern of misleading positive data is found to be rampant you may see the FTC open an investigation. If they continually release photos which are misleading in regards to the state of the spill or the reaction of the company it may be seen as an attempt to artificially increase stock value. Since BP is a public traded company they have to be careful about releasing data which influences their stock price (which is why we didn't hear much from them good or bad at the start of their screw up). I doubt the FTC will investigate or care but it may eventually become an issue, especially near the end of the disaster.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 6:42am

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    Link works check the clicker ;)

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 6:45am

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    Remember Chernobyl? The oil spill is comparable to the Chernobyl accident. It's worse. BP knew something like this could happen, but still skipped the necessary repairs just to save a few bucks.

    BP should be hit HARD for their crime, and even HARDER for trying to cover it up.

     

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    Michial Thompson, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 6:48am

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    little mikee cares, he needs something to pout about and throw random accusations at to drive up hits so his advertisers will still keep paying him.

    There aint shit on this site that's original, and rarely ever does little mikee say anything worth while. This entire site is about selling Advertising to the very people little mikee then turns around and pouts about because they are trying to protect their IP.

     

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    Overcast (profile), Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 6:53am

    hahahaha, that's just funny.

     

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    IronM@sk, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 6:56am

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    Oh I so hope you didn't just Google that...

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 7:14am

    BP .... Been Photoshoppin'

     

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    JeffP, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 7:22am

    Re: Re:

    And here is MT keeping it classy...

    Boo Hoo.... Boo Hoo...

    Go away little troll... go away...

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 7:34am

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    MT, you spelt Michael wrong...

     

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    Atkray (profile), Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 7:36am

    Re: Re:

    kthxbai

     

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    pixelpusher220 (profile), Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 7:48am

    Re: look at the gauges

    BP's 'apology' says it just does 'color correction' and 'light balancing'. And perhaps a few people did these types of cut and paste jobs.

    Utter BS. If these 'few people' aren't fired for basically lying, you know it was done under direct orders.

     

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    nasch (profile), Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 7:49am

    Re: Re: look at the gauges

    Wouldn't that be the SEC?

     

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    btrussell (profile), Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 7:51am

    Re: Re:

    Actually, most come here to read your posts.

    Please keep coming back and help drive ad revenue to Mike.

     

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    nasch (profile), Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 7:55am

    Re:

    Slapping in a photo of pristine sparkling waters where ships are supposedly cleaning up the oil spill is not nefarious? The rest of it is probably just lazy. They already had a photo of the inside of a helicopter, so it's easier to paste some stuff in than actually send a photographer up with a chopper*. But when they put in the beautiful tropical water, that was an intentional choice to lie about what is going on.

    * I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt and assuming that there really are helicopters involved and they could have gotten a similar shot to this if they'd bothered. If that's not true, then the whole thing is a lie and should be condemned entirely.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 7:59am

    Re: Re:

    I can't figure out why I still see people buying their gas. It boggles my mind.

     

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    Sean T Henry (profile), Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 8:07am

    Re: Re: Not the first

    BP has had negligent spills/ruptures before one was in Alaska.
    "In March of 2006, following a pipeline rupture that resulted in a large oil spill on the North Slope near BP's Prudhoe Bay facility" http://www.truth-out.org/alyeska-pipeline-yet-another-example-how-bp-runs-things61097

     

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    Michael Long (profile), Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 8:12am

    Re: Re: look at the gauges

    Nice. I'm sure BP isn't above firing a few graphic artists if they think it will get them off the hook.

    Blame top-level management, not the little people.

     

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    nasch (profile), Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 8:14am

    Re: Re: Re:

    You can't necessarily avoid it. A Shell gas station could sell gas produced by BP. And BP stations are mostly owned by local franchisees. So even if everyone boycotts BP gas stations, it probably won't hurt them much.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 8:22am

    BP is making a mockery of this catastrophe and honestly it's pretty enraging.

    They have ruined a the lives and ecosystems of 5, FIVE states. And what do they concern themselves with? Photoshopping stupid pictures to try and save some face in the media.

    The decision makers at BP need their assets stripped and a good face smashing.

     

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    weneedhelp (profile), Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 8:25am

    Re: Re:

    "pulled up and like most motorcyclists I have a little bit of arrogance and like to park on the sidewalk instead of the parking places."
    Oh you are one of THOSE assholes. I like to kick those over.

    "like most motorcyclists" Speak for your own ignorant ass. I ride, and have done so for 30 years.

    After reading: Humor, the best way to get through the day, on your whiny insignificant little blog; You are just a little punk bitch that is a legend in your own mind. Is the conclusion I have come to. Whaaaa whaaa whaaa whaaa whaaa. I also fail to see the "humor" Not funny at all. Sad really.
    Also, for your safety; you should not be such an ass with so much personal info in your blog, guns or not.

    Bass boat and cruiser... appears that old is setting in. Its ok. Grumpy old men are funny...sometimes.

    F'in wannabe biker fag.

     

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    AW, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 8:28am

    Re: Re: Re:

    Not the franchisees fault and the gas is usally cheaper around where I live.

    Adobe tries to get Photoshop out of the vernacular and Google loves to be googled. A difference of companies one on a decline and one on an incline. Without PS and possibly DW Adobe would have little to offer most people that they couldnt' get from otehr sources.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 8:28am

    half life

    "comparable to the Chernobyl accident"

    with the exception that Chernobyl was a nuclear incident which distributed radioactive waste with a half life of hundreds of years. The area around Chernobyl will be a restricted zone for hundreds of years to come.

    This oil slick will probably have dispersed by the end of the year and the after effects will not be measurable by normal means within ten years.

    There is a substantial amount of experience about this gained from other oil spills elsewhere in the world.

     

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    Berenerd (profile), Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 8:52am

    LOL

    I swear some of those ships look like pirate ships from the Pirates of the Caribbean

     

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    R. Miles (profile), Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 9:11am

    Bad pictures...

    ...will probably lead BP to say "It's not our fault! The cracked Photoshop we were using didn't do what we wanted it to. By the way, anyone know what 'mybpcln.fl6' opens in?"

     

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    Debra Ramsay, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 9:17am

    Makes me feel queasy. Can't help but jump to the conclusion that there's sooo much more that's been 'shopped. (and the ships out the cockpit window look like a video game)

     

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    Michael, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 9:23am

    Re: Re: Re: look at the gauges

    Yup. They spill millions of gallons of oil into the gulf killing countless wildlife and ruining an ecosystem...

    ...and the graphic artists that they had photoshop some images are the ones fired.

    I don't think these graphic artists should keep their jobs (they are clearly incompetent), but I think someone should take BP to task on the actual disaster at some point too.

     

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    Overcast (profile), Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 9:29am

    Does BP really mean "Big Phail"?

     

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    iNtrigued, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 9:43am

    Re: Re: Re: Re:

    First off, I don't understand why they would want to have Photoshop removed from the vernacular, but they most definitely aren't on the decline. Plus, Adobe is a software company while Google is a service company (mostly). So there isn't much room for comparison between the two. When it comes to PS, that is Adobe's core product. That is like saying if Google didn't have its search engine... Doesn't really say much.

    Now in regards to Adobe's competition from open source products, there can be something said for the Gimps and Inkscapes out there. Most notably, they are FREE instead of hundreds of dollars.

     

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    PolyPusher (profile), Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 10:46am

    Will everyone please stop calling it "Photoshoping"

    The correct term is Retouching. Also, graphic artists are net necessarily retouchers, they are different disciplines. To call retouching "photoshoping" is like calling every soda "Coke."

    They did an absolutely abysmal job of "RETOUCHING..."

     

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    Anonymous, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 10:50am

    Re: Re: Re:

    I Don't buy their gas or oil. Instead go to the next station which is not affiliated with BP

     

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    iNtrigued (profile), Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 10:56am

    Re: Re: Re: Re:

    You realize first of all that is only hurting you local business owners who had nothing to do with the oil spill, secondly BP can sell its gas to other gas stations. So unless you request to see where the oil came from everytime, there is a possibility that you are still buying their oil.

     

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    btr1701, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 11:02am

    Re: Re: look at the gauges

    > I doubt the FTC will investigate or care

    The FTC has no jurisdiction over stock fraud. That's the domain of the SEC.

     

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    btr1701, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 11:06am

    Re: half life

    > with the exception that Chernobyl was a nuclear
    > incident which distributed radioactive waste
    > with a half life of hundreds of years.

    It also affected everyone on the planet. The Chernobyl release gave everyone on earth the equivalent of 100 doctor's-office X-rays.

     

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    harbingerofdoom (profile), Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 11:27am

    Re: Re: Re:

    in turn, you too are too kind...
    obvioustroll is obvious

     

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    Brad Hubbard (profile), Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 11:36am

    I don't see the problem

    Maybe I've just worked in industry too long, but I don't get all upset every time a company releases some badly 'shopped press photo. You know how hard it is to take a good photograph from the inside of a helicopter? Of course they were sitting on the ground. It's not like they released it saying "This is what we're doing to clean up the spill" - it's a damn press photo.

     

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    TDR, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 12:02pm

    As a graphic artist myself, I find it hard to imagine that whoever slapped this together didn't see that it would be caught. Maybe they didn't care. Or maybe they deliberately made it bad so it would be found out and BP would get hit for it - about as much protest against that bloated giant as he or she could pull off, perhaps. Graphic artists aren't exactly high on the company ladder, as we all know.

    And since bureaucrats and execs usually aren't technically savvy enough to see or care about how good the composite image is, it's not an unreasonable assumption that it just slipped past them, as a protest or careless job or whatever it happened to be.

    In any case, the damage was done. Let's hope BP gets royally smacked down for what they've done. And by the way, anybody know how or why that rig blew up in the first place and caused all this?

     

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    darryl, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 12:21pm

    Thats because its NOT flying, its preparing for takeoff.

    or they are sitting on a platform, 300 meters above the sea surface, doing their pre-flight prior to takeoff.

    They certainly do not look like they are 'at altitude'.

    But you assume too much me thinks, and you are only guessing on what they are doing, to dig up some dirt on them.

    The more I look at that picture, the more that is exactly what is happening, if anything they are on a raised platform, preparing for takeoff. Ie doing their preflights.

    You would expect their doors to be open when they are landed, until it comes time for them to close.


    And what has a picture of two guys in a chopper have to do with the oil spill anyway ?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 12:50pm

    Never seen anyone in a helo flying at the apparent altitude in the photo with their hands not on the cyclic control.

    Kinda like driving your car with both of your hands wrapped around a juicy hamburger.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 12:54pm

    Re: Who is doing their PR?

    it's BPGlobalPR on Twitter.

     

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    derek, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 12:55pm

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    Agreed – this is so crappy that it's hard to believe it's not deliberate.

    The retoucher or filetech can't very well watermark the images with "Photoshopped," but s/he can still make sure they can be outed as fakes.

     

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    nasch (profile), Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 12:59pm

    Re: Will everyone please stop calling it "Photoshoping"

    Doesn't substituting critical portions of the photo with completely different contents go beyond retouching? That seems like a kind of expansive definition.

     

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    nasch (profile), Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 1:01pm

    Re: I don't see the problem

    They were definitely saying "this is what we're doing to clean up the spill." Even if those words didn't appear on the same page, that is clearly the message. This image in fact has nothing to do with their cleanup efforts, which makes them liars. And we should point it out when people lie.

    You know how hard it is to take a good photograph from the inside of a helicopter?

    I'm sure that is how they rationalized it.

     

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    darryl, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 1:30pm

    Thanks generally are easier than you assume.. look at photo again..

    Never seen anyone in a helo flying at the apparent altitude in the photo with their hands not on the cyclic control.


    At altitude !!!! there is a freaking tower ABOVE THEM and to the left, its part of the rig infrastructure, they are "ON THE GROUND" or at least on the rig helo platform, doing their pre-flight checks, preparing for takeoff.

    The cannot be "at altitude" with there is a freaking huge tower WAY ABOVE THEM..

    But lets not let the facts stand in the way of a spin.

    The "control tower" is not a control tower, how many control towers do NOT have windows, or have 2 hand railings, and a flight hazard black and yellow sigh in it.

    Its not a tower, or control tower, its a part of the oil rig they are about the take off from.

    And what benifit of damage would BP receive if they did modify a phone of 2 guys taking off in a chopper ?

    But you CANNOT be at altitude, and at the same time have a part of the oil right towering over you !!.

    So who is really lieing here ?

     

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    crade (profile), Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 2:20pm

    If you look at the original compared to the shopped one the only real difference is that many of the more obvious indicators that the helicopter is not in the air are shopped out.

    A moderately close analysis of the picture will tell you that they are not in the air at all. Your average person briefly glimsing the picture will think that they are.
    This was the obvious intent in the photoshopping, but wtf for, and why a half assed job? who knows.

     

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    Anonymous, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 2:48pm

    I like this

    I like how when is is an American company (Exxon) the government pays for cleanup and goes to court to recoup costs. But when it is a British company, the government goes to the court of public opinion and kills off an otherwise successful company. Talk about double standards.

     

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    crade (profile), Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 3:28pm

    Re: I like this

    Exxon is a mosquito.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 3:39pm

    Re: Who is doing their PR?

    It's that former RIAA person.

     

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    Matty, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 5:07pm

    A friend of mine pointed out... there appears to be a bottled water on the upper right canopy??

     

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    teknosapien, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 6:34pm

    kind of shocked

    that google maps don't show any of the carnage

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 8:13pm

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    They ran over budget and didn't want to pay their Photoshop employee overtime to finish the job.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 9:21pm

    Re: Thanks generally are easier than you assume.. look at photo again..

    I do a fair amount of image editing, and have used 35mm and medium format cameras for almost 40 years.

    This appears to have been taken with a moderately wide angle lens, in which case I would normally expect the photo to exhibit a fairly large depth of field in which near and far objects would generally be in focus. What surprises me is that in this instance all of the objects seen through the windown are plainly out of focus.

    While the tower in the upper left window could be some for of a tower, I find it difficult to believe that every ship seen through the windows are fuzzy to the point of showing virtually no detail. The obvious change in the coloration of the water through the large left window, coupled with large portions of the water exhibiting no waves of any sort makes me believe that what is presented through the large windows have been imported and inserted into the photograph.

     

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    David W, Jul 22nd, 2010 @ 9:52pm

    it is important

    The fact that BP released Photoshopped images isn't the problem. The issue here is an ongoing culture within that business that cultivates possible fraud, mis-information and possibly more.

    Sure, it's enjoyable to find something like this and spread it around the Net, but what is more important is realizing this is yet another document showing the deceit, possible fraud, and open disregard to the facts.

    having a BP official demand certain new rules for image processing is nothing more than a band-aid on a pustule of a corporate citizen that is highly infected with bad practices. Dealing with the source of the problem is what is needed.

    I'll leave those actions to those qualified to state them.

    Regards,
    David W
    Austin, TX

     

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    nasch (profile), Jul 23rd, 2010 @ 12:12am

    Re: Re: Thanks generally are easier than you assume.. look at photo again..

    "The obvious change in the coloration of the water through the large left window, coupled with large portions of the water exhibiting no waves of any sort makes me believe that what is presented through the large windows have been imported and inserted into the photograph."

    I was about to reply with something like "gee, you think so?" (dripping sarcasm). Then I realized darryl might actually be claiming this is not an altered photo. I knew he's an idiot, but... wow.

     

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    nasch (profile), Jul 23rd, 2010 @ 12:15am

    Re: it is important

    Right on. As Jalopnik put it, "It speaks to a company still more concerned with image than reality, in charge of repairing something so terribly broken that we can't afford to treat it with anything but total candor."

     

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    Mike Masnick (profile), Jul 23rd, 2010 @ 12:37am

    Re: Thats because its NOT flying, its preparing for takeoff.

    The more I look at that picture, the more that is exactly what is happening, if anything they are on a raised platform, preparing for takeoff. Ie doing their preflights.

    Hi Darryl. It's probably worth pointing out that BP has admitted it Photoshopped the photo, and have posted the original: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bpamerica/4816829256/in/set-72157624429465573/

    So, an apology might be in order on your part.

     

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    Wat, Jul 23rd, 2010 @ 1:15am

    Re: Re:

    How many PEOPLE died from the BP accident? I'm damn sure it's less than the amount from Chernobyl.

    Human casualities, it's not worse, envriomental effect, yeah it is, but it's not the worst spill in history.

    http://www.envirowonk.com/content/view/68/1/

     

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    nasch (profile), Jul 23rd, 2010 @ 7:53am

    Re: Re: Thats because its NOT flying, its preparing for takeoff.

    darryl apologize? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

     

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    JoshuaJ, Jul 23rd, 2010 @ 10:09am

    Nice recovery

    I've gotta say, I think that the flickr account is the best corporate response to a scandal that I've ever seen. Most companies try to deny the accusations, to cover it up, and threaten to sue anyone telling the truth. BP has not only admitted to the problem, but posted hi-resolution images showing exactly what they did wrong to a third-party website!

    (My point? I dunno. I guess it's nice to see that even a company as profoundly incompetent as BP manages to get some things right :)

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 23rd, 2010 @ 4:53pm

    Re: Thats because its NOT flying, its preparing for takeoff.

    "or they are sitting on a platform, 300 meters above the sea surface, doing their pre-flight prior to takeoff."

    That's kinda the point everyone was making. It appears they are really sitting on the platform above the sea surface doing their pre-flight routine prior to takeoff and that they Photohshopped/Gimped/whatever it to look like they were in the air and did a very bad job of it. and the later release of the original photo taken supports what everyone already suspected to be the case. So thanks for pointing out what everyone was already saying.

     

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    tim, Jul 23rd, 2010 @ 7:51pm

    bp...

     

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    ыукпшщ, Jul 30th, 2010 @ 4:47am

    омериканцы - педоразы!!

     

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    Richard Allcheck, Aug 6th, 2010 @ 1:43am

    Re: "arrogance parking on the sidewalk"

    Hardly arrogance! When I do park on a "sidewalk" it's out of the way and not bothering anyone. Besides I've actually had people YELL at me for parking in a parking space saying they are for cars ONLY! No pleasing everyone anyway. I've also had people park over the parking spaces into my space because "Hey it's only a bike,why not take up that extra space because I'm too lazy to park my car properly." As for this BP spill,they are getting away with murder,remember this when election time comes and vote against all the politicians that are not mad as hell and showing this with what they do against BP!

     

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