Official Twilight T-Shirt Contest Won't Let You Use Anything From Twilight

from the good-luck dept

David writes in to alert us to the rather hilarious situation where Cafe Press is running an official Twilight t-shirt design contest, where you can try to design a t-shirt for the upcoming release of the latest installment (didn't the last one come out like 3 weeks ago?) in the series, called Eclipse. You're supposed to design a t-shirt related to the movie, and you can win a $500 gift card.

That, of course, is not very interesting. Where it gets amusing is when you look at the restrictions in the fine print (I've bolded my favorites):
  • No use of the official Twilight movie logo e.g.
  • All images must be tagged with "twilight movie"
  • No use of images or depictions of the actors in the movie
  • No use of profanity, vulgar or hate language
  • No use of explicit sexual language or graphics
  • No use of copyrighted material from the movie or its promotional materials (e.g. no use of images of the movie, movie posters or from the movie website)
  • No political party associations (e.g. republican, democrat, or candidates)
  • No blood
  • No fangs
  • No stakes thru the heart
  • No coffins
  • No bats
  • No use of Twilight book cover images
  • No pictures of apples
  • No journals (you cannot create Twilight journal products)
  • No calendars (you cannot create Twilight calendar products)
  • No Cards (you cannot create Twilight postcards, greeting cards and note cards)
  • No Undergarments (you cannot create Twilight thongs or boxer shorts)
So, yes, go ahead and make an official Twilight movie shirt (but certainly not any other Cafe Press product), but don't use anything from the actual movies or books or anything normally associated with vampires. Also, um, can someone explain to me the prohibition on apples?


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    Rose M. Welch (profile), Jun 18th, 2010 @ 7:49pm

    The cover art for the first book in the series, Twilight, features a pair of hands holding an apple. I think it's supposed to reference temptation, which is a neat reference that's now been wasted on such a juvenile offering. Sad. :(

    See the cover here:

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1d/Twilightbook.jpg

     

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      Hephaestus (profile), Jun 19th, 2010 @ 2:27pm

      Re:

      I agree ...

      "is a neat reference that's now been wasted on such a juvenile offering."

      It is a great picture that made me stop in the book shop and think "That is so hot" and smile all the way home.

       

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      TW Burger (profile), Jun 19th, 2010 @ 3:01pm

      Re: Apples

      Oh, that's why. I thought it was because Steve Jobs would sue.

       

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        Matt L, Jun 19th, 2010 @ 7:07pm

        Re: Re: Apples

        That's what I was thinking. :)

         

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          TW Burger (profile), Jun 19th, 2010 @ 9:30pm

          Re: Re: Re: Apples

          The 'No fangs' rule confused me more - until I read about the vegetarian vampire stuff. I guess the producers are trying to separate vampirism from blood and make it cool and wholesome. It's sort of like LBJ and Vietnam or BP and the Gulf of Mexico.

           

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            PaulT (profile), Jun 21st, 2010 @ 6:34am

            Re: Re: Re: Re: Apples

            "the producers are trying to separate vampirism from blood and make it cool and wholesome"

            No, it's because the sparkly vampires aren't really "vampires" in the traditional (folklore) or common knowledge (Bram Stoker) sense. The vampires in the movies don't have fangs, just as they don't get harmed by sunlight and play vampire baseball. They still drink blood, but you don't see gore in the first movie (the one I was subjected to - not pleasant as I am an actual horror movie fan). It's pretty well agreed that the series (up until it got weird in the 4th book as I understand it) was just a big metaphor for Mormonism and chastity.

            The "no fangs" bit was probably just to stop people from falling back on vampire cliches (or infringing on Universal's copyrighted works) when they realised they couldn't use movie screenshots. The apple thing was probably just to avoid getting a million riffs on the original book cover - the only thing associated with the series that doesn't feature an actor.

             

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    Mike C. (profile), Jun 18th, 2010 @ 7:53pm

    Apples....

    The cover of the first book in the series shows a pair of hands holding a red apple. Ads and promotional shots from the first movie also regularly used apples.

    /lame excuse for a restriction

     

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      Hephaestus (profile), Jun 19th, 2010 @ 2:18pm

      Re: Apples....

      "/lame excuse for a restriction"

      " Also, um, can someone explain to me the prohibition on apples?"

      Its a virgin vagina, and clit (red apple) thing. Look at the picture. They dont want people doing shirts showing blood covered arms holding an apple (ie loss of virginity) saying "oh my that was fun". It would ruin the franchise.

       

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 18th, 2010 @ 7:56pm

    no glitter should also be up there:P

     

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    Anonymous Poster, Jun 18th, 2010 @ 7:58pm

    This might be the stupidest thing I've read all week, and I read that story about Pakistanis calling for the death penalty for Facebook's higher-ups.

     

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    Sans Pantalones!, Jun 18th, 2010 @ 8:02pm

    Issabout vampires, right?

    No fangs...?

    To quote the internet, "lolwut?"

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 18th, 2010 @ 8:11pm

    For sake of comparison...

    The band Devo teamed up with Shirt.Woot for a t-shirt design contest with a generous prize, where you can, um, must use one of three logos or the image of their iconic hat in your design from a file they supply. Something must be wrong here... :)

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 18th, 2010 @ 8:13pm

    Durrr...

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 18th, 2010 @ 8:17pm

    Abuse this "Winter Event happening between the years 2009 and 2011" style

    Easy contest winning, just include:

    1) Rats with wings (literally)
    2) All teeth elongated EXCEPT for Canines.
    3) The word "Dawn" plastered everywhere.
    4) Credit pages from the inside covers
    5) Steaks through the heart.
    6) Red jelly (or some non-blood bodily fluid that might be...appropriate)

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 18th, 2010 @ 8:31pm

    most win submission

    Emo crying guy with ketchup on his mouth (evidenced by a ketchup packet in his hand), and an orange in one hand standing in a wooden packing box with small silhouettes of pterodactyls around him

     

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    Nick (profile), Jun 18th, 2010 @ 8:56pm

    winning Idea

    black shirt, white text:
    "I wanted to enter a contest, but all I was legally allowed to make was this lousy T-shirt."

    Actually, Tech dirt could make that.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 18th, 2010 @ 9:04pm

    Spell Check in The Title

    Hi Mike. Title says: "Official Twilight T-Shirt Content ...", oops, should be "Contest". Cheers.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 18th, 2010 @ 9:09pm

    They are forgetting a few

    Such as we own the word "Eclipse" which is covered under our copyright, so that is banned. So is the date the movie releases.

    I wonder if there is a clause that says they own all images sent to them.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 18th, 2010 @ 9:48pm

    Did they trademark "Sparkle Faerie" or "Sparklepire", yet?

     

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    redwall_hp (profile), Jun 18th, 2010 @ 9:54pm

    Seriously, what the hell? I despise this franchise. It wasn't so bad before the movies started, back when the people who read it kept to themselves. But the new breed of Twilight freaks, and all of the attention the franchise gets in the media, really get on my nerves. The worst offense? That the media keeps trying to label it a "fantasy series" and compare it to greats like Harry Potter, The Lord of the Rings, Wheel of Time, A Game of Thrones, Dragonriders of Pern, Mistborn, etc. etc.. (Okay, maybe not the last few, since they're not on the most of the public's radar...) No. It's just a cheap teen romance story with a bunch of marketing firepower behind it. It's not even a real gothic horror story, which is kind of a prerequisite for a story so deep into vampire territory, don't you think? (Excusing the oxymoronic vegetarian vampires and their lack of weaknesses or vampire-like traits.) Sorry. I'm done venting. I run a fantasy site, so this bothers me more than it should.

     

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      Anonymous Coward, Jun 19th, 2010 @ 12:18am

      Re:

      I take offense to your use of greats in reference to Harry Potter :)

      I only point this out to illustrate that one persons greats are another's trash.

       

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        Anonymous Coward, Jun 19th, 2010 @ 7:12am

        Re: Re:

        Can't stand Harry Potter.

        I'll admit to having read the first two twilight books before giving up in exasperation. Yeah I'm slow like that.

         

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      TW Burger (profile), Jun 19th, 2010 @ 3:11pm

      Re: Fantasy

      No, I disagree. Twilight is "fantasy". It's a fantasy to think that forever young and beautiful, super-human immortals are obsessed with a bland, whiny, teenage girl with no discernible unique traits, personality, or motivation. However, since this seems to be the target audience it's a money making machine.

       

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      PaulT (profile), Jun 21st, 2010 @ 6:47am

      Re:

      If you haven't seen it already, watch the Swedish vampire movie Let The Right One In. It's extremely an well made movie along very similar basic lines as Twilight (i.e. a mortal and a vampire fall for one another) but very different both in tone. Both major characters are pre-pubescent for a start, and it has a poignancy and heart that the production line movies don't have.

      The original novel by John Ajvide Lindqvist is also excellent, but takes turns further down some very dark roads (for example, paedophilia merely hinted at in the movie is made very explicit). Inevitably, there's a Hollywood remake on its way (retitled Let Me In, and is getting some surprisingly positive buzz).

      It might not change your world, but it will reaffirm that actual artists are still working in the genre.

       

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    Jono, Jun 18th, 2010 @ 10:11pm

    it's obvious!

    Just use the restrictions as the content!

     

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    Jay (profile), Jun 18th, 2010 @ 10:24pm

    @redwall_hp

    There are other stories. But the fact that they've since transgressed into other genres (gonna keep that quiet for those 17 and under...) they really aren't worth reading.

    As I see it, this is just like the 90s when Interview with the Vampire came out. Vampires and werewolves, modern setting, all to fight over a girl or go emo over a lost love from the last century.

    *shudder*

     

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    Hephaestus (profile), Jun 18th, 2010 @ 10:48pm

    renaming the title .... spelling Nazi stuff

    "Official Twilight T-Shirt Content Won't Let You Use Anything From Twilight"

    ... Should read ...

    "Official Twilight T-Shirt Conte"S"t Won't Let You Use Anything From Twilight"

     

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    Fsm, Jun 18th, 2010 @ 10:56pm

    Am I alone...

    Or am I the only one that thinks of vampires still as bats that fly in and *POOF*, there's the vampire?

    "I've come to suck your bloood!"

     

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      Overtkill (profile), Jun 19th, 2010 @ 11:41am

      Re: Am I alone...

      Indeed. I still laugh at the count when I see him on TV.

      Bats beget bats, in my world. I wonder how well bats would help my batting average... :)

       

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 18th, 2010 @ 11:52pm

    techdirt saves* twilight.

    another fluffy friday piece. yucky.

     

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      Anonymous Coward, Jun 19th, 2010 @ 3:23am

      Re: FUTAM

      Ohhhh capitalization challenged troll... You so random.

       

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      Anonymous Coward, Jun 19th, 2010 @ 2:40pm

      Re:

      Well golly, if it displeases you so much then why are you even here? Why don't you start your own blog and save us all from your incessant whining.

       

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        Anonymous Coward, Jun 20th, 2010 @ 5:06pm

        Re: Re:

        only two posts mike? isnt your usual trick now to try to shout me down with 7 or 8 posts in a row?

         

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          Anonymous Coward, Jun 20th, 2010 @ 5:30pm

          Re: Re: Re:

          Hurrah, he's back to Cospiracy-Theory TAM!

          Let's keep poking him and see if he goes through his other routines.

           

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 19th, 2010 @ 3:21am

    Perhaps the reason they don't want to use anything listed is because they and everyone has already used the listed items a million times over and they want to come up with something new and unique. If that's true then I see nothing wrong with that. Of course I don't expect them to outright admit, "You can't use the following because they've already been killed to death so you must come up with something new instead." That would practically be admitting, "due to our previous uncreativeness we have killed the following to death. To stimulate some level of creativeness, and compensate for our inability to be creative, you must come up with something new."

     

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    SpacePirate, Jun 19th, 2010 @ 3:26am

    Noooooooooooooo

    They left out:

    No prepubescent longing for nonexistent anti-humans.
    No getting tingly for eternity.
    No quasi-biting semi-people.

     

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    Blatant Coward (profile), Jun 19th, 2010 @ 4:40am

    Caught between necrophilia,
    and bestiality,
    Twilight!

    (inset picture of furry banana here)

     

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    John Duncan Yoyo (profile), Jun 19th, 2010 @ 4:50am

    No Apples?

    The Prohibited apples because the shirt is in Flash.

     

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    AW, Jun 19th, 2010 @ 4:57am

    wait they are "vegetarian" vampires?...OMG I hated the series before, but now I am going to destroy it. That's just what I need people going around saying they are vegetarians to be "cool". As a vegetarian, I'm actually offended for vampires everywhere.

     

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    Fabio, Jun 19th, 2010 @ 5:52am

    Great Entries

    Hey,
    some of those t-shirts are really great even without any copyrighted material. Things like "I was pale before twilight made it cool" deserve a prize.

     

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    interval (profile), Jun 19th, 2010 @ 6:13am

    My submission...

    ...is going to be a large screw stuck through a baseball.

     

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    Louis Smith (profile), Jun 19th, 2010 @ 6:28am

    Legal T-Shirt for Contest

     

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    Louis Smith (profile), Jun 19th, 2010 @ 6:29am

    Legal T-Shirt for Contest

    black shirt, white letters:
    This shirt is a tribute to my favorite movie.
    However, due to copyrights and
    aggressive lawyers, I cannot say
    anything about the move, its characters,
    locations, props, common terms, or
    even tell you what genre of movie it
    is as I might get sued by somebody
    for something. This shirt in no way
    infringes on anyone's copyright for anything.

     

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    Bob Vila, Jun 19th, 2010 @ 6:56am

    This isn't a joke by the contest writers? I chuckled a few times as I was reading the list.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 19th, 2010 @ 8:35am

    Capitalism

    The reason they are releasing back-back movies is because this is the last book in the series, and in order to capitalize as much as possible from all these teenie-bopper fans, they decided to split the book into two separate movies (which they filmed at the same time...)

    Money Money Money.

    T-Shirt Entry: Real Vampires don't Shimmer!

     

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    mer2329 (profile), Jun 19th, 2010 @ 8:44am

    wow just wow

    those are some funny rules

    I especially find this one funny
    No pictures of apples

     

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    Craig (profile), Jun 19th, 2010 @ 9:45am

    Please note: The Eclipse design contest is open to residents of the United States and United Kingdom only.

    What the hell...just leave six billion plus people out of it, eh? Who cares about all those people; they will just steal the movie anyway.

     

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    Aaron Williamson, Jun 19th, 2010 @ 10:39am

    My design

    I've got a design that I think will pass muster:

    "Pasty boys & dour girls not having sex."

     

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    Overtkill (profile), Jun 19th, 2010 @ 11:49am

    They didn't think of the APPLE first....

    When it comes to apples and vampires, the movie FRIGHT NIGHT comes to mind. It seems that the vampire from that film used them to clean his teeth perhaps. :)

     

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    Sethumme, Jun 19th, 2010 @ 5:26pm

    You got it ALL WRONG...

    It's not hypocritical. It's simply being sponsored by a non-Twilight related organization (i.e., CafePress.com). Just look at the end of the official rules page.
    http://blog.cafepress.com/twilight-saga-eclipse-t-shirt-design-contest-official-rules-2/


    This is NOT the "official" twilight t-shirt design contest. This is a contest to design a shirt that can take advantage of the Twilight Eclipse craze without infringing on the true IP-holders' rights.

     

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      ChurchHatesTucker (profile), Jun 20th, 2010 @ 1:46pm

      Re: You got it ALL WRONG...

      Click through to the Fan Portal link.

      All images created for the Official Twilight Saga: Eclipse Movie Fan Portal must comply with the following rules. Please note that the rules may be more restrictive than the CafePress Content Usage Policy, however we need to respect the creative decisions of the author and the movie studio.

      Sounds official to me.

       

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 19th, 2010 @ 6:26pm

    They want something original

    According to the rules entries will be judged on:
    Creativity
    Originality
    Aesthetics
    Concept

    With a limited number of concepts they are looking for. The limitations are to get original entries instead of a bunch of the same thing over and over. Who wants to judge a bunch of t-shirts that all look the same. The rules add constraints that make entrants think outside the box.

     

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      Anonymous Coward, Jun 20th, 2010 @ 4:23pm

      Re: They want something original

      Right...like trying to build a spaceship resorting only to plastic bags, pencil shavings, ice cream and used tires.

      They just want to see some creativity. No way did they mess up and forget to secure enough rights to make the t-shirts. And no way is copyright interfering with what people can and can not do here.


      No
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      way.

       

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        Anonymous Coward, Jun 20th, 2010 @ 5:19pm

        Re: Re: They want something original

        Making t-shirts is a form of creative expression. Apparently you are not capable of creating something original, so you find the rules stifling. Your lack of creativity holds you back. Rather than getting creative you blame someone else for your inability to compete. This is your problem and copyright has nothing to do with it.

         

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          Anonymous Coward, Jun 20th, 2010 @ 5:29pm

          Re: Re: Re: They want something original

          ...that's the best BS you could come up with? Seriously?

          If they wanted a "Creativity contest", it wouldn't be labelled with a "Twilight" stamp, now would it?

          Who knows, maybe they messed up, and it's supposed to be a "Anything-but-Twilight contest".

           

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          Anonymous Coward, Jun 21st, 2010 @ 6:51am

          Re: Re: Re: They want something original

          Restrictive rules do not benefit creativity, quite the opposite. By telling people what the CAN NOT do, you are pointing them to what they MUST do. You are actually achieving the opposite of the desired effect. Instead of letting creativity flow freely, you are pinning people down, leaving them unable to express themselves freely.

          This doesn't mean, of course, that creative works cannot be created, but you are seriously limiting the universe of possible creations with these rules (I'm thinking of set theory here. You have a set T of all twilight related themes which these rules (set R) are chopping off (final set = T - R, which is obviously smaller)).

          But I still think that this was some sort of bad planning on their part and not some sort of creativity boosting move. Something they should be bashed for, and not praised.

           

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            Anonymous Coward, Jun 21st, 2010 @ 7:55am

            Re: Re: Re: Re: They want something original

            The original creators have already beat set T to death. They do not want a bunch of entries that simply rehash set T over again. They want something from the T-R set. Its that simple and it has nothing to do with copyright. Why do you assume that they actually want an unlimited set of solutions?

            While Mike really wants to blame copyright for the rules, copyright has nothing to do with them. This is a nice attempt to connect with fans, they are simply asking the fans to come up with their own stuff rather than rehashing what has already been done.

             

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              Anonymous Coward, Jun 21st, 2010 @ 8:05am

              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: They want something original

              "The original creators have already beat set T to death. They do not want a bunch of entries that simply rehash set T over again. They want something from the T-R set."

              You DO realize that set T - R is contained INSIDE set T don't you? That's makes your argument kinda dumb.

               

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                Anonymous Coward, Jun 21st, 2010 @ 8:10am

                Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: They want something original

                Probably what you meant was that they've already beaten set R to death?

                 

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                  Anonymous Coward, Jun 21st, 2010 @ 10:29am

                  Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: They want something original

                  Whatever, I failed to communicate to you on your own terms, so be it. Anyhow, I think you get my point. They want some fresh entries in the contest. They put up rules around the contest to avoid getting a bunch of stuff thats already been done. Honestly, I don't like the rules and I could care less about the contest. I'm not supporting the contest or the rules. I do think that looking at the rules and then blaming copyright for them is wrong, is not about copyright its about fresh content. At the end of the day, the contest itself is really about connecting with fans - something that gets a lot of attention here on techdirt.

                   

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                    nasch (profile), Jun 21st, 2010 @ 11:40am

                    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: They want something original

                    They put up rules around the contest to avoid getting a bunch of stuff thats already been done.

                    As far as I can tell, any commentary, including Mike's, about why these rules exist is pure speculation.

                    My speculation is that the rules are there not to promote creativity, but to retain control. They don't want anybody to think they can use the Twilight logo or any other trademarks, and they want to prevent movie-related depictions they don't like. Has Twilight merchandise with fangs, blood, and stakes through the heart really been done to death (no pun intended)? I haven't seen any, then again I haven't been looking.

                     

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              Anonymous Coward, Jun 21st, 2010 @ 8:37am

              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: They want something original

              The not so original creators want something original?

              That is rich coming from people who did Romeo and Juliet again.

               

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              DT, Jun 21st, 2010 @ 8:38am

              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: They want something original

              The not so original creators want something original?

              That is rich coming from people who did Romeo and Juliet again.

               

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              nasch (profile), Jun 21st, 2010 @ 8:42am

              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: They want something original

              Even if that's true, which I doubt, it's STILL stupid. If they were trying to guide people to different and creative output, all they had to do is say something like "We're looking for something new and different, so be creative. The winning designs will not look like Twilight shirts we've seen before."

              The creative people will get it and do something new (although they probably would anyway). And it's dumb to eliminate a really cool and different design that still happens to incorporate one of these banned elements. The not creative people aren't going to do anything creative no matter what you tell them. So basically IMO it's a fail no matter what their motivation was.

               

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    Jeff Woods, Jun 19th, 2010 @ 7:28pm

    no apple?

    Why no apple?
    Probably talking with Steve about plans for iTwilight.

     

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    Karl (profile), Jun 19th, 2010 @ 11:40pm

    Unofficial?

    Sorry for pointing this out, but it looks a lot like Cafe Press is trying to do a "Twilight" product, without having to pay the Twilight producers any money. So they "crowdsource" this to fans, with all the copyright restrictions, and hope to come up with something they can sell.

    That is, this is in no way an "official" contest. It's official as far as Cafe Press in concerned, but that's it.

    I mean, that's the only explanation that makes sense. If it were official, then I'm guessing the Twilight copyright holders would allow a little more leeway.

    I'm of course counting on copyright holders making sense...

     

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      Anonymous Coward, Jun 20th, 2010 @ 3:17pm

      Re: Unofficial?

      CafePress explicitly states that the rules are MORE restrictive than what they would normally allow, and that it's the Copyright holders that are putting in the arbitrary restraints.

       

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    WammerJammer (profile), Jun 20th, 2010 @ 6:01am

    No Blood

    That's the low blow. No blood in a Vampire movie. Well it all sounds extremely lame and will only be paid attention to by girls that need to be bitten. Please let a man bite me, please.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 20th, 2010 @ 7:52am

    @23

    AWWWW SUCKS TO HAVE YOU BREATHE THE SAME AIR AS THE REST OF MANKIND. SEE WHY PEOPLE DO THINGS CAUSE THEY CAN.
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    WHAT NO APPLES
    OMG HOW AWFUL AND STUPID THIS IS
    haha

     

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    Jeremy2020 (profile), Jun 20th, 2010 @ 7:54am

    So with pretty much everything, but 'sparkly' banned...basically the only valid entry is a sequin shirt

     

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    mjb5406 (profile), Jun 20th, 2010 @ 2:17pm

    Can we call it...

    Can someone design a logo and t-shirt for "twitlight" and submit it, please?

     

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    Marcel de Jong (profile), Jun 20th, 2010 @ 3:24pm

    My submission would be a stake on the right side of the t-shirt (which would not be a stake through the heart as your heart's on the left side of your body)

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 20th, 2010 @ 8:13pm

    If it weren't for copyrights preventing fans from using Twilight material in Twilight contests that need Twilight material, there wouldn't be contests for fans to use Twilight material!

    OH WAI-

     

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    Darryl, Jun 20th, 2010 @ 9:46pm

    its a DESIGN contest - - stupid..

    If anyone read it, they would see straight off that is is a
    'design contest'.

    Then they ask you to actually DESIGN things, and Mike gets all upset.

    It must suck when they specifically state that you (YOU) must design the things, (after all its a design contest), and that you are not allowed to USE THE DESIGN OF SOMEONE ELSE.

    That would make it a "COPY CONTEST", and I dont think that is what they are after.

    All those restrictions they list, well what does that make or force you to do ?

    ACTUALLY THINK FOR YOURSELF,

    "I cant copy that, I cant copy that, I cant use apples, I cant use blood"... DAMN,,, "IM GOING TO HAVE TO THINK FOR MYSELF".

    If this was not inplace, would you award the prize to the person who did the best job and copy and paste ?

    I know its terrible for people to ask you to use your own brains, your own creativity, your own talents, but dont let you steal creativity, talents or skills that other people have.

    I dont know why you complain about this kind of thing Mike, I see it as perfectly normal, and acceptable.

    They are asking you to design something original, original means not using something someone else has thought up.

    And what is wrong with that Mike ? it's a design competition that forces you to actually DESIGN, and not copy somone elses design.

    And you complain about it, because they have to design, and the rules state specifically that are not to use existing designs.

    You want to you use your brain, and not your cut and copy buttons. I personally think that is totally correct, and right and how could it be any other way and remain fair, or still be an actual competition of design.?

     

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      Anonymous Coward, Jun 20th, 2010 @ 11:58pm

      Re: its a DESIGN contest - - stupid..

      If you never copied anything and had to come up with everything yourself you would be a feral kid somewhere in some jungle, walking without closes and hiding in shit.

       

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      Anonymous Coward, Jun 21st, 2010 @ 12:05am

      Re: its a DESIGN contest - - stupid..

      Most people I know that are creative used some sort of memory to come up with new things, they used things that worked in other areas and applied to a problem in another area, nothing really new is being born from nothing, it always comes from something, so even it it is a contest not endorsed by the creators it shows very clearly how copyright can stiff creativity, expression and fun.

      Copyright is killing the joy in the life of everyone.

       

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    darryl, Jun 21st, 2010 @ 4:49am

    And yet people can still create, even if you cannot...

    And oddly enough, regardless of what you say, many people will be able to quite easily create a work, that is accepted under the condition set out.

    There will be alot of them, they will be original designs, and just because YOU cannot use your imagination, and come up with something original, there is no reason many other people can and DO create new and original things.

    Sure, I can paint a painting, ill use paint, brushes, different colors and so on, I might even paint something that has been painted many times before, (like a tree, or a face), none of that takes away from the creative input that is required, if you go beyond just copying what someone else has created.

    Its really not justifiable, that there are complaints about having to come up with something original. Based on a theme.

    or are you complaining that they actually define what is cheating, and what is not?

    Do you think they should have a competition with no rules, and allowing you to use anything someone else has designed as much as you like.

    What humans evolved, there was no a pool of art, music, and things that people have always gone too to 'ideas'.

    MonaLisa is not a great painting because of its uniqueness, its great because its very good, paintings of faces are common, and not unique, its the content that is scarce, not the media, its the content that has the value.

    This competition is about you creating your own content, not just use content designed by someone else, (who has creativity). If you do not.

    Its not a cut and paste or internet search competition, its a design comp, so they expect you to design something, not find someone elses design.

    I dont see a problem with this and I dont see what else they could have done, or what they could have done different that would have pleased Mike. ?

     

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      Michael, Jun 21st, 2010 @ 7:21am

      Re: And yet people can still create, even if you cannot...

      Nobody is saying that cannot come up with content rules, but the rules they have come up with are somewhat stupid. Do you really think the no use of the logo restriction makes sense for an official t-shirt design contest?

      I didn't go to school for ad design, but seeing as how the logo is usually a part of the branding, you would actually want the official t-shirt branded with the logo.

      That's a bit like a McDonald's ad without the golden arches. Most people would look at it and wonder what the heck it was for.

       

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      Anonymous Coward, Jun 21st, 2010 @ 7:59am

      Re: And yet people can still create, even if you cannot...

      Ok, creative creature show us one original that had never been done before?

      I'm not holding my breadth because I know you can't come up with anything.

       

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      Anonymous Coward, Jun 21st, 2010 @ 8:11am

      Re: And yet people can still create, even if you cannot...

      What you are saying is that an apple is owned by twilight and can't be used anywhere by anyone because they used in the stupid film?

      People can't use fangs because it is owned by twilight saga?

      It is not their property no idea is, what if someone was to make a vampire with glowing fangs?

      "What humans evolved, there was no a pool of art, music, and things that people have always gone too to 'ideas'."

      Rome had copyrights?

      The Ottoman Empire had copyrights?

      The Persian Empire had copyrights?

      They all were well known for their love for the arts, the greeks also, the Chinese for 3 thousand years now have a rich history that includes arts, are you saying people didn't do art before? are you crazy? no not crazy you are dishonest aren't you.

      "Do you think they should have a competition with no rules, and allowing you to use anything someone else has designed as much as you like."

      Why not? Are you saying nobody can be inspired by others anymore? if forbidden now?

       

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    Berenerd (profile), Jun 21st, 2010 @ 5:37am

    No pictures of apples

    WTF? No pictures of apples? I have lost braincells. So to promote the movie we can't promote the movie....nice...

     

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    Drak, Jun 21st, 2010 @ 7:03am

     

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    Michael, Jun 21st, 2010 @ 7:16am

    Your T-Shirt is almost perfect

    I think the takedown t-shirt you offer is a nearly perfect submission. Some small modifications - like a little "twilight movie" at the bottom and you are done.

    "No Undergarments"

    I remember the days when a t-shirt was called an "undershirt".

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 21st, 2010 @ 8:53am

    I would rather endure a prostate exam than sit through any of the "Twilight" flicks. The fact that my thirteen-year old niece is busting to see this only reinforces my position.

     

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    C, Jun 21st, 2010 @ 9:02am

    Original Creators want original works, that cracks me up.

    They managed to create Romeo & Juliet in a gothic set again!
    and want original content?

    LoL

     

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    cysco24, Jun 21st, 2010 @ 9:10am

    Picture this

    Sun eclipsed by the moon, a guy looking eerily similar to Edward Cullen with his head down in sadness. To the right a big sign that says "body glitter contest".

     

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    Movie, Jun 21st, 2010 @ 10:32am

    What it is original about that movie again?

    I know that story from somewhere, I'm pretty sure I saw that a thousands times already and people call them "original creators", WTF?

    The film is a rip off of the rip off of the rip off of the rip off all back to medieval times.

     

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    Justa Comment, Jun 21st, 2010 @ 2:28pm

    How About a Black to Blue Fade and

    Twi As I Might
    No Wording Allowed
    About A Movie
    Maybe...

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 21st, 2010 @ 8:02pm

    THIS JUST IN!

    Due to the usage of hands holding an apple on the cover of the novel, by extension the contest has now banned all usage of hands or forelimbs in submissions to the contest. By further extension to make absolutely sure that no arms will be included submissions cannot have arms inserted where the arms would normally go through. To make sure there are no unauthorised usage of arms all contestants must surrender their arms to the rightsholders as they own all rights to arms.

     

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    Alexandre, Nov 11th, 2010 @ 3:38pm

    T-shirt Design Ideas that can help them in their creations

     

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