California Judge In Charge Of Enforcing Laws Against Robocalls, Using Robocalls Herself

from the that-doesn't-seem-right dept

Thomas Hawk writes "Victoria Kolakowski, a current sitting law judge at the California PUC, is running for Alameda Superior Court judge in California. As part of her campaign she is robodialing people in California with a pre-recorded message. The only problem is that in Califorina robodials are actually illegal unless first introduced by a non-recorded natural person who gains consent to play the call. Ironically, the very agency set up to protect our privacy and enforce this law, the California PUC, is the very agency where Kolakowski works today. Kolakowski originally apologized for the calls but then later deleted messages on her Facebook account from people objecting to her use of these calls. Now Kolakowski is trying to argue that because 'techincally" she is routing her calls through Colorado from outside the state that her robodials are actually legal."


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    Andrew F (profile), Jun 9th, 2010 @ 7:48am

    Unfortunately, I think she's won her election last night.

     

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    Jay (profile), Jun 9th, 2010 @ 7:51am

    George Orwell strikes again!

    You see? The doublespeak is strong with this one!

     

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    aguywhoneedstenbucks (profile), Jun 9th, 2010 @ 7:56am

    But...but

    But I AM the law!

     

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    zaven (profile), Jun 9th, 2010 @ 8:02am

    Re: But...but

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 9th, 2010 @ 8:06am

    Somehow I put my cell number on my vote by mail registration. Every single election I get all kinds of out-of-state robocalls about the up coming election. The law has a major loophole. I also get calls from real humans from inside california, I see caller id with numbers like 510-000-0000. Both kinds of calls are equally annoying, not sure why the law specifically singles out robocalls as the problem.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 9th, 2010 @ 8:09am

    gotcha politics. such a wonderful, classy thing.

     

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    Hulser (profile), Jun 9th, 2010 @ 8:15am

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    I don't recall where I heard this, but aren't robocalls to cell phones illegal for any purpose? I think the logic is similar to spamming a fax machine, since the receiver of the call incurs an actual monetary cost -- as opposed to annoyance and the time cost to delete a spam e-mail, for example -- they shouldn't be allowed to call your cell phone.

     

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    Dark Helmet (profile), Jun 9th, 2010 @ 8:17am

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    "Both kinds of calls are equally annoying, not sure why the law specifically singles out robocalls as the problem."

    I think the bigger question is what kind of voting public do we have in America that robocalls and cold calls in any way effect voting practices?

    Call: "Hi, this is Dark Helmet, currently running for the Illinois Senate seat that your former governor tried to sell to the highest bidder. I like cans of Perri-Air, long walks on the beach with Druish princesses, playing with my dolls, and laser beaming soldiers testicles. I am currently campaigning on the "stop the raporists, think of the children, liberal-conservative-communist style anarchy method for ensuring you have fresh air and a galaxy free of the Planet of the Apes (particularly the Mark Wahlberg version, who the fuck thought THAT was a good idea?). Please vote for me at election time."

    Citizen: "Okay."

     

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    aguywhoneedstenbucks (profile), Jun 9th, 2010 @ 8:21am

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    I would vote for that.

    Seriously though, the problem is that the politician whose name is remembered is the one that gets the vote. It doesn't matter why unless it is particularly unsavory.

     

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    Dark Helmet (profile), Jun 9th, 2010 @ 8:26am

    Re: Re: Re:

    "Seriously though, the problem is that the politician whose name is remembered is the one that gets the vote."

    Fair enough. But I have a better method for making sure my name gets remembered than robocalls. The day I announce my candidacy for any office would be exactly one day after the paperwork came through on the legal change of my name to Awesomeballs McVagina Cheese....

     

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    Designerfx (profile), Jun 9th, 2010 @ 8:36am

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    no,political exception

     

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    Joe, Jun 9th, 2010 @ 8:43am

    um...fired?

    Shouldn't she get fired just because of how dumb this is? I know any PR is good PR but you would hope people would know enough about the issues to just elect someone they don't know. Granted I guess people don't know her well enough, just recognize the name...sad.

     

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    z, Jun 9th, 2010 @ 9:01am

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    o man, and i was ready to vote for you after your first post...

     

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    Overcast (profile), Jun 9th, 2010 @ 9:06am

    Oh? So if I re-direct any web activity through a proxy server - that makes it legal?

     

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    Hulser (profile), Jun 9th, 2010 @ 9:12am

    Re: Re: Re:

    no,political exception

    I know there's a political exception for the Do Not Call list, but I was still under the impression that it was illegal to make unsolicited calls to a cell phone. It's bad enough when you have to deal with unsolicited calls on your home line -- if you still have one, that is -- but it's even worse when the call uses your monthly cell phone minutes.

     

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    Sneeje (profile), Jun 9th, 2010 @ 9:37am

    Re: Re: Re: Re:

    And your profile name hasn't been changed because...

    I mean Dark Helmet has history, but Awesomeballs McVagina Cheese has well, Awesomeballs and McVagina Cheese.

    Regarding your first post, I'm with you. The moment I can tell that a robocall is starting or about to start, I either press delete on my voicemail or make them eat dialtone.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 9th, 2010 @ 9:44am

    Re: Re: Re:

    "Seriously though, the problem is that the politician whose name is remembered is the one that gets the vote. It doesn't matter why unless it is particularly unsavory."

    Isn't that how George W. Bush got elected? People just saw "George Bush" and thought he was running again. Sheeple. Gotta love em.

     

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    Dark Helmet (profile), Jun 9th, 2010 @ 10:12am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    It might be worth it just to read an article that starts with, "Awesomeballs McVagina Cheese alerts us to..."

     

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    Awesomeballs McVagina Cheese, Jun 9th, 2010 @ 11:31am

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

    Try it and I'll sue... mine!!!

     

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    matt1981m (profile), Jun 9th, 2010 @ 12:32pm

    hey dark helmet...wasnt it President Skroob who had the perri-air?...and dont forget to remind him to change the code on his luggage...

     

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    Alan Gerow (profile), Jun 9th, 2010 @ 12:35pm

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    Like President Skroob is the Emperor of Perri-Air. I get that stuff by the case down at Spaceballs: The Overpriced Corner Market.

     

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    matt1981m (profile), Jun 9th, 2010 @ 12:35pm

    i too usually just delete the message or hang up like Sneeje, but the robocalls that really piss me off are the ones that redial you immediately if you hang up...

     

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    Alan Gerow (profile), Jun 9th, 2010 @ 12:41pm

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    It's about jurisdiction. How can a California court tell people in Colorado what's legal and illegal? The robocallers are calling from Colorado, robocalling is legal in Colorado, California has no jurisdiction to do anything.

     

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    matt1981m (profile), Jun 9th, 2010 @ 12:59pm

    technically since someone is in colorado calling a california number, dont they have to abide by california laws regarding robocalls?

     

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    Dark Helmet (profile), Jun 9th, 2010 @ 1:00pm

    Re:

    Yeah, but it's gained a lot of popularity, thanks to some little twerp's "moichandizing, moichandizing"....

     

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    matt1981m (profile), Jun 9th, 2010 @ 1:02pm

    spaceballs the flame thrower...the kids love this one

     

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    Dark Helmet (profile), Jun 9th, 2010 @ 1:06pm

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    Ah, but they're crossing state lines using an electronic communications line while misleading the recipient into thinking they are from within the state. This just narrowly misses the definition of wire fraud.

     

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    harbingerofdoom (profile), Jun 9th, 2010 @ 1:32pm

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    its the politician with the most charisma that wins. ability, knowledge and dedication to public service be damned these days.

     

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    Sneeje (profile), Jun 9th, 2010 @ 5:44pm

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    That's never happened to me. I had no idea that was possible. That would generate some serious fury.

     

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