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Is Just Talking About Infringing Content Infringing?
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There are people out there who believe that just talking about the fact that infringing content is out there is infringing itself, but that seems like a plainly ridiculous standard for judging infringing content. Yet, we see cases like this all the time. Recently, there was Twitter taking down a tweet for merely linking to a blog post that talked about a leaked album (but which didn't link to the leak), and now TorrentFreak points out that the site RLSLOG has been totally taken offline (again) after Universal Music sent a takedown request. The only problem? RLSLOG doesn't actually host any content or infringe on any copyrights. It's a news site that talks about infringing content that's available, but is that infringing itself? It's difficult to see how anyone would properly judge that to be the case, but it didn't stop the site's host from taking them offline thanks to Universal Music's legal threats.
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Copyright is all my arse mate and has been twisted and manipulated beyond all recognition from what it was once intended. It doesn't even protect the artist/content creator and is solely for the greed of "the industry".
Why is it even called theft by those who manipulate when it clearly isn't theft. It is a copy. Non have gone missing have they? In fact it's on the contrary because there is now more and not less.
These animals need reining in.
Mpaa/riaa/bpi/ifpi ARE the enemy people.
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big brother is big corporations
When I first got involved in the Internet business fifteen years ago, I instantly saw this as the dawning of a new age of the free flow of information and ideas. Big brother has been doing more and more to show they don't like that, even though they created it.
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DMCA: The Cultural Sniper Rifle
Don't like a site? Issue a take-down.
Don't like TechDirt questioning the cartels? Issue a take down.
No evidence required. No court required. No money required. The trigger is just an e-mail.
The only reason the weapon isn't used more often is that unlike corporations and their attack lawyers, most people have a conscience.
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Daft
let it roll......
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They're helping people find infringing content
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Ralph
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At the bottom of each post are links to a cyberlocker site where the content in question can be downloaded. Even if those are taken down, the comments to each post are almost exclusively sets of download links.
Like I said, I like the site myself, but they do a little more than just talk about infringing files.
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It's an American thing
For the first eight months or so it was very good, then it was bought over by a big American company. They went through the database deleting sites willy-nilly because those sites said something that might "encourage illegal activity" in the US.
I eventually dropped all association with them after a gardening site, rated top for information on tomato growing, was dropped (there was no appeals process) because someone in the comments section had suggested that the site might be useful to cannabis growers. At about the same time they introduced a "verification process" for volunteers where we had to go down a list of 20 statements and check the ones that would lead to a site being rejected. If we got it wrong our submission privileges were suspended for a week and then we had to take the test again.
The problem was that only sites that might encourage activities that were illegal in America were being targeted. This started out as a multi-national web project, but the parochial views of the company that took it over just ruined it.
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FUCK OFF COPYRIGHT
i am thinking of downloading a whole bunch a new music, maybe supernatural and tomorrow ill grab star gate universe and smallville and a few other eps i like ot watch
then i might grab a few movies and sit back and enjoy myself
im gonna hten burn 20 copies of everyhtng and give them away for free on NON Levied dvdrs
and hten have a whiney roast in honor of the CRIA pending list for not also paying anyone since 1980
WOOT that feels better
now will i or won't i.....
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RE: Daft
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...and by discussing it in a court room the court is now infringing. If the court is infringing the judge must be removed from the bench.
Try typing Infringment into google - then look out for the paddy wagon.
Yup... let it roll
Crap I just mentioned infringment again, I will go strap myself into the chair - if someone would kindly pull the lever for me.
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Thank You Thank You
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@13 you mean
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Go to the top of the page and read the text.
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Re: FUCK OFF COPYRIGHT
Ah. The insanity defense.
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I publish a paper listing the best prostitutes and where to find them?
Give directions to crack houses?
Have a website detailing all of the criminal services available in town and where to get them?
I am not directly involved in these activities, just reporting on them. What if I also sent this information to the police, doing my civic duty and such?
Obviously I'm not reporting on crime. My business model depends on it. If I make any money from my publications, does that make me an accessory?
I'm not a lawyer so I cannot answer my pondering, but I think our responses depend heavily on how we view the crimes involved.
If I published a list that detailed all the best places for you to go to abduct children (parks where the parents don't seem to be as vigilant, school grounds with less security, etc) there would be outrage and people advocating criminal action against me.
Some feel just as strongly about intellectual property. Personally, I think IP laws have bloated far out of balance and need to be changed. This is why I would think a site like RLSLOG is not a problem.
I realize this is only my own moral point of view however. Others may vary.
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Good Point.
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Re: They're helping people find infringing content
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Ah. The insanity defense.
I take it you're not a fan? :)
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Surely there's plenty of precedent
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Universal Music Legal Department
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That would be legal in the UK; we have a few websites rating prostitutes. As long as they are clearly independent sites doing the rating they're breaking no laws. e.g. http://www.punternet.com
That would be great! Just as long as you were obliged to keep the info up-to-date. When they shut down the crack house in the flat upstairs from me I still had more than six months of their customers buzzing my door to be let in to the building. If they could have just checked a website it would have saved me a *ton* of hassle.
I'm sure the Police would like that.
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There's a lot I don't like about it, but I figured I'd give it at least a season to see if they hit their stride.
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