Company Sues Gartner Again For Not Putting It In The Magic Quadrant

from the you're-going-to-need-some-magic... dept

No matter what you think of Gartner's research (and we've been quite clear that we don't think much of it), the lawsuit brought by ZL Tech against Gartner earlier this year for not putting it in Gartner's infamous "magic quadrant" was a non-starter from the beginning, and it was no surprise that it was quickly tossed, as the judge noted that Gartner is free to have its own opinion. ZL should have taken the hint. Instead, it's amended the complaint and tried again. You can see the full complaint here or read it below:
It's basically more of the same. ZL is still claiming that Gartner has no right to its opinion, saying that because Gartner bases its opinion on "a body of facts" through "a rigorous process" it's no longer an opinion. That's flat out ridiculous. All opinions are based on a body of facts, and even if you have a rigorous process by which you figure out how to sort your opinions, it's still an opinion.

ZL also talks about Gartner's well-known conflicts of interest, a topic that is widely discussed and certainly has done great harm to Gartner's credibility in many circles, while still not being illegal. Basically ZL just comes across as a company angry that Gartner didn't rank it high enough, which -- in my opinion (please don't sue) -- raises plenty of questions about why you'd want to work with a company so thin-skinned and sensitive to someone else's opinion.


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    Angry, Dec 8th, 2009 @ 6:39pm

    RAWR

    OK... seriously. Each time there is a story like this, a politician and a lawyer should have their accounts frozen and sent to some 3rd world country

     

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    Dark Helmet (profile), Dec 8th, 2009 @ 6:49pm

    Ahem

    Your CwF+RtB offerings need to be replenished.

    Love,

    Dark Management....

     

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    ChurchHatesTucker (profile), Dec 8th, 2009 @ 7:28pm

    Ugh

    The Nokia ads are a frakin' bitch. Worse because it takes me a minute to find out why pages are scrolling for no reason.

    Also, ScribD is annoying as hell.

    That is all.

     

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    Ads, Dec 8th, 2009 @ 7:31pm

    Ads

    Mike you're an embarrassment. Maybe you haven't seen it (probably not), but the Nokia ad takes up half the damn screen. C'mon, kill off the terrible ads.

     

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    db, Dec 8th, 2009 @ 7:38pm

    It's said in every thread complaining about ads...

    Get Firefox, and adblock. I haven't seen an ad for a very long time.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Dec 8th, 2009 @ 7:45pm

    Re: Ads

    What ad ?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Dec 8th, 2009 @ 7:59pm

    Re: It's said in every thread complaining about ads...

    Ha ha... no kidding!

     

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    inc, Dec 8th, 2009 @ 8:00pm

    Re: Ads

    I clicked on the ads. I'd rather see an ad then your off topic comment. That's my opinion after rigorous fact checking.

     

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    ChurchHatesTucker (profile), Dec 8th, 2009 @ 8:21pm

    Re: Ads

    Frak yeah! I utter an audible "Frakkin' Nokia!" every time I encounter this craaap.

     

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    Promote me to asshole moderator, Dec 8th, 2009 @ 10:48pm

    My name isn't Mike so I can't be cool.

    Will this comment need to be reviewed by the staff?

     

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    PRMan, Dec 9th, 2009 @ 2:46am

    What ad?

    I have Firefox with NoScript and I don't see any ads...

     

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    AJ, Dec 9th, 2009 @ 4:12am

    Ad?

    I'm sure this blog isn't free for Mike. I'll bet it costs him money somewhere. If I have to put up with an ad or two, to continue to get to read and post here for free, so be it. It IS annoying, but tolerable.

     

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    js, Dec 9th, 2009 @ 6:38am

    relevant?

    Wow..does anyone still believe that Gartner is still relevant or even remotely accurate/fair/balanced in their views?

     

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    Esahc (profile), Dec 9th, 2009 @ 8:11am

    Re: Ahem

    Especially for the holidays and when I have money, you're supposed to magically know when I have money, damn it!

     

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    Esahc (profile), Dec 9th, 2009 @ 8:13am

    Re: Ads

    Get Add block +, I have no clue what add you speak of.

     

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    Dark Helmet (profile), Dec 9th, 2009 @ 9:29am

    Re: Re: Ahem

    Exactly!

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Dec 9th, 2009 @ 6:12pm

    Re: RAWR

    Perhaps Gartner needs to list ZL Tech in the rubber room of insanity for repeating the same action and expecting a different result.

     

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    kambui (profile), Dec 15th, 2009 @ 1:27pm

    WHAT IS GARTNER GOOD FOR?

    I will tell you my friends...two things...

    One...market sizing...sometimes...or at least your boss gets off your back when you say you pulled the numbers from Gartner...

    Two...consulting firms read Gartner every month to determine what subject(s) clients will become paranoid about during the current month, then the firms sell into the paranoia...

    (heh) I don't mean for it to sound the way it does...

    Depending on your business problem and/or perspective, a five-figure Gartner subscription may or may not be worth it...

     

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