Cable Lobbyists Side With MPAA On Getting Permission To Break Your TV

from the not-really-a-surprise dept

As Hollywood keeps asking for permission from the FCC to break your TV with Selectable Output Control, it's picked up an unsurprising ally. Cable companies. NCTA, the lobbying group that represents the cable industry has come out in favor of the request, claiming that it will let them offer movies earlier. This is a myth that they want regulators to believe. The MPAA and cable companies could offer up movies whenever they want. They just don't want people to record them, because they want to introduce yet another annoying window. So, they declare that they need to break your TV and DVR from recording. Hopefully, the FCC knows better than to break TVs and piss off so many people just because Hollywood is upset some people will want to record movies.


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    roxanneadams (profile), Sep 18th, 2009 @ 3:19pm

    Keep up the good fight against the paying consumer of your products.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 18th, 2009 @ 3:52pm

    Hopefully the FCC will listen to both sides of the story, and not just the one that here seems to be a constant refrain.

     

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    AdamBv1 (profile), Sep 18th, 2009 @ 3:59pm

    Windowed releases need to go the way of the dodo.

    In this day and age there's no reason they they cant release content in every way possible at once. Imagine if it was your choice on if you wanted to watch something in the theater, video on demand or DVD/BluRay the day a movie is out.

    Cam rips would go away and DVD/BluRay rips would be no more common than the are today. If theaters were smart they could profit off this by selling DVD's and soundtracks right there in the lobby cause who's more likely to buy a movie than somebody who just walked out of a showing and liked it?

    Sure some people would never go to the theater if they could do VoD or buy the DVD right away but its still going to be a place you can go for 3D movies and not everyone has a good home theater system to really watch and enjoy movies on. There are plenty of things theaters can do to keep people coming to them, i know of one in my area that's removed every other row of seats and put in tables and they serve food there.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 18th, 2009 @ 4:03pm

    So then...

    Why can't cable channels be priced per channel, instead of these forced tiers?

     

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    TheStupidOne, Sep 18th, 2009 @ 4:04pm

    Re: Windowed releases need to go the way of the dodo.

    I agree ... I can think of the number of times there was a movie out that I wanted to see, but didn't ever have time to go out to the theater to see and I'd really have loved to watch it some evening after work. And my TV will never replace the experience of going to the theater. Seriously even a 70+ inch HDTV can't match the video quality of the theaters and it would be a very expensive home audio system that can come close to a good theater's system.

    If only movie theaters served beer ...

     

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    thegreatsemaj, Sep 18th, 2009 @ 4:26pm

    Old Tech Returns!

    Well, well. Hooray for that dvd/vcr combo I have. Now if I could just find some tapes...

     

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    big al, Sep 18th, 2009 @ 4:31pm

    $6.00 popcorn

    don't be silly... at 20.00 a head (ticket,popcorn,candy ect.)you'll never get the theaters to go for a release until the last penny is squeezed from us, the public!!

     

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    inc, Sep 18th, 2009 @ 4:33pm

    Re: Re: Windowed releases need to go the way of the dodo.

    I know of one theater in my area that has normal seating on the lower level and reserved couches on the upper level. You need to be over 21 to get up there and they have a full restaurant with full top shelf liquor bar. The price of tickets are about double but include free popcorn and free valet parking. Included in the price no doubt. It is a world of difference knowing your seat ahead of time and not fighting for a good spot. Just relax is a cold beer and watch the show.

     

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    Sean, Sep 18th, 2009 @ 4:47pm

    Break my DVR You better not!

    If they decide to Break your TV or DVR. This could adversley affect many diffrent things. 1. I use my TIVO EVERYDAY. I will go insane dragging out my VCR 2. DVR companies will loose revenue unless they forcefully shift their business to other models. 3. Cable companies will continue to reap in the benifits of there high class PPV systems (lol). 4. Stealing,downloading, and pirating will increase unimaginably. 5. People will switch to the internet instead of TV which will hurt local broadcasters. 6. I will go postal

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 18th, 2009 @ 4:53pm

    Re:

    >Hopefully the FCC will listen to both sides of
    >the story, and not just the one that here seems
    >to be a constant refrain.

    Yep the cable companies should hang the MPAA representative as an example to the rest of those bastards. Fortunately the cable company has plenty of cables and poles for the purpose. It might even make them slightly less hated.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 18th, 2009 @ 5:04pm

    Re:

    and most of them are paid programming anyways.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 18th, 2009 @ 5:08pm

    The cable industry has been, and will continue to be incredibly fascinating.

    I long thought someone would be fully behind advancement of the technology, but it seems the baton was actually passed to someone carrying equal political persuasion instead of the desire of someone desiring equal technological persuasion.

    And instead of providing substance-based needs on their original desire to push the art and science forward, the political alternative was chosen.

    Perhaps, this is akin to Rockefeller and Standard Oil. Out of which Amoco was formed, and eventually, due to leadership that desired to chase after needs of advertisers instead of needs of users, it will eventually be put to rest. I doubt that the new leadership truly understands the legacy left behind.

    The Harvard Business Review reported a few years ago that it typically takes seven years for a decent succession plan. So, given the compressed timeframe and requirements, perhaps given the circumstances, it's quite possible that a third, less qualified, yet more adaptable person may ultimately be the best successor under a 2 year plan. But in the event that less than seven years has passed, a true succession plan may be moot. I just hope the new executive was smarter than him, but based on some of the current situations, I have serious doubts.

    As Steve Jobs often warned, don't put the salesman in charge. However, test them.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 18th, 2009 @ 5:10pm

    I found this interesting.

    "California Removes Larger TVs from Energy Regulation ... For Now"

    http://www.dealerscope.com/article/california-removes-larger-tvs-energy-regulation-for-now-4 12581_1.html

    California wants to regulate televisions to make them more efficient but it seems like they're just regulating them to make you buy a more expensive one instead.

    "The revised CEC regulations, posted early today, excludes larger - and more profitable televisions - 58 inches and up, from its proposed energy efficiency restrictions."

    If this is really about making televisions more energy efficient why allow people to buy bigger televisions without such limitations?

    "For televisions under 58 inches, or less than 1,400 square inches in monitor area, the CEC's regulations would require a 1 Watt maximum power usage in stand-by mode, and set limits to "on mode" power usage calculated by screen size."

    It would be interesting to know if someone has a patent on this "one mode" power usage configuration.

     

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    waste management, Sep 18th, 2009 @ 7:21pm

    Re:

    Yeah, california (note lower case) has always been a problem child-- looking for a Federal solution for their inability to plan for local problems.

    As an example, i really like the barrel roll of 1975 federal copyright extensions championed by california.

    yay, califorina!

    i've also learned to look outside of california for solutions because california seems to be a country in it's own led by mr. schwarzenegger who, after 9 months, can't seem to figure out a budget and still has ious out.

    recently, someone forwarded to me an eBay list of stuff "The Terminator" was auctioning off.

    but in california, they have this super nifty state-mandated recycling fee on most electronics that just doesn't make sense. this is especially true if don't have a landfill to put it in. But you know, not having a landfill for one of the most populous areas of the US isn't a problem, it's an opportunity! An opportunity to raise garbage collection rates to $75 a month.

    Good work greenies. so, um, where do you think that trash goes?

    it's your state's problem, not mine.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 18th, 2009 @ 7:44pm

    Re: Re:

    "it's your state's problem, not mine."

    No, because we ship it off to your state.

     

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    slander (profile), Sep 18th, 2009 @ 8:07pm

    Re: Re:

    I hear that the mob has a hazardous waste collection service, no questions asked...

     

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    Luci, Sep 18th, 2009 @ 9:37pm

    Re: Windowed releases need to go the way of the dodo.

    I'd be right there buying up soundtracks. They're hard to find unless you get them online.

     

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    Daemon_ZOGG (profile), Sep 20th, 2009 @ 10:27pm

    Pipe Dreams...

    Remember this historical fact...
    Any new drm crap released into the wild will eventually be hacked, cracked, filtered, and forgotten by the digital masses. As for the cable TV industry.. you guyz are on thin ice as it is with your customers already. There are too many OTHER ways to view televised content. So we really don't need you anyway...

    ;)

     

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    Jordan, Sep 21st, 2009 @ 5:06am

    I am very sick of this media Industry snd you know something I am going to do to them what they are trying to do to me.
    Hurt Them In Their Large Pockets !!!!
    I will just stop buying any movies or tv shows but I will download and ripoff them to get them back.
    FUCK YOU MPAA !!!

     

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    TV Watcher, Sep 21st, 2009 @ 6:48am

    Re:

    I don't think this is logically possible, there's already a good deal of PVRs out there in the market. They'd need to have those declared illegal or taken off stock immediately in order to really create a dent.

    And again more and more people are going to the internet to watch their favorite movies and shows, some legally some not so. Amazon's unbox is a great legal service, but people prefer hulu since it's free (of course the content on both are different).

    This really won't work well - people will not stand for having less for more, they need to learn that their content is good, but it's not brilliantly unique or original enough to warrant people to stay with it when independent content which can rival mainstream content in entertainment and value can be devoured for free and with more liberal sanctions in terms of how it's watched and used.

     

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    Hephaestus (profile), Sep 21st, 2009 @ 7:25am

    Anyone wanna get in on a betting pool ....

    I am starting a betting pool in, one day increments, on how long it takes this new DRM (Selectable Output Control) to be hacked...

    Any takers?

    Dibbs on Day One .... Big Ole Grin ....

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 21st, 2009 @ 12:11pm

    Re: VCRs

    Uh, did you guys even read the linked articles? VCRs will not fair any better then the DVRs - this "Selectable Output Control" completely shuts off ALL ANALOG and non-"secure" digital outputs! The "new equipment" you will need is a TV with a HDMI input, as only HDMI has the DRM built in (it's an integral part of the specification).

     

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    Falindraun (profile), Sep 22nd, 2009 @ 5:21am

    Hollywood: Hey there FCC we want you to make DVR's and TV's unable to record movies.

    FCC: Why?

    Hollywood: Because its ruining our profit margin.

     

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    We Are Legion, Sep 23rd, 2009 @ 5:50am

    Re: Old Tech Returns!

    Yep. If they get their way, I'll be ditching my premium programming as well as DVR. Hollywood doesn't turn out much worth watching anymore anyway....

     

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