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   Ima Fish (profile), Jul 22nd, 2009 @ 12:11pm

   
   

   The whole thing is obviously being used to stifle free speech because the police department doesn't like it, not because there's any sort of reasonable copyright claim.
   
   But copyright never infringes free speech, right?

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   lavi d (profile), Jul 22nd, 2009 @ 12:16pm

   
   

   They're apparently pissed that a guy who used the photos to prove that the cameras are faulty has posted his story (with the photos) online:
   
   This guy needs to move to Tiburon...

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   Stephen, Jul 22nd, 2009 @ 12:37pm

   
   

   I live in a small town in Tennessee that has just installed traffic light cameras at 2 of the 3 traffic lights in the town. The city council explanation of the cameras is to make the intersections safer. Which I consider to be total bs. Said council nor the company (Trafficpax) which installed the cameras have provided any data to back up their claim of prevention of accidents. I find it interesting that the for-profit company installed the cameras free of charge and will take 60 percent of each ticket issued. I don't think there has even been an accident at either intersection in 2 years. I just wanted to inquire what strategy, if any, might I take, short of destroying the camera itself, to get rid of them.

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   Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2009 @ 12:39pm

   
   

   As long as the cameras have nothing to hide they shouldn't worry about the photographs being shown.

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   Don't remove the photos

   

   vastrightwing, Jul 22nd, 2009 @ 12:45pm

   
   

   simply cover the actual light so they can't claim you're violating a "copyright". They can't possibly pretend to copyright the landscape!

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   TSO, Jul 22nd, 2009 @ 12:53pm

   
   

   Isn't it very smart of UK police to attract public attention to the faults of their technology through this? Streisand effect, anyone?

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   Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2009 @ 12:55pm

   
   

   Shine a powerful laser pointer at the lens (you know, one of those sold @thinkgeek.com). That usually burns the imaging chip without causing any physical damage to the camera.

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   Richard, Jul 22nd, 2009 @ 12:55pm

   
   

   Put a model of the Korean War memorial on the back of your car!
   
   Then inform Gaylord if you get a ticket.

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   Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2009 @ 12:58pm

   
   

   Since the cameras are for profit, shouldn't some modeling dividends be given to the drivers?

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    crashoverride, Jul 22nd, 2009 @ 1:08pm

    
    

    Hmmm maybe the argument that evidence cannot be copyrighted. Or how about he bought the photos as part of his fine. Or show us the Copyright that you (haven't) been granted)The phrase the truth will always come out comes to mind.

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    Chronno S. Trigger (profile), Jul 22nd, 2009 @ 1:15pm

    
    

    I don't know how it is in the UK but in the US there is a good argument for fair use since they are commenting on the pictures. The cops are also a government organization so they can't hold a copyright. But, again, that's the US not the UK (and we see how well that works in the US anyways).

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    Strike a blow for freedom

    

    NullOp, Jul 22nd, 2009 @ 1:29pm

    
    

    paintball gun

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2009 @ 1:30pm

    
    

    I was going to say that as evidence for use in a trial, don't they come under the heading of public records? But again, it's the UK, not the US, so who knows.

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    So what would happen

    

    Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2009 @ 1:32pm

    
    

    if the photos were published on a US website? Even if the Sussex Police claimed copyright could it be defended by US fair use, or 1st amendment grounds. Hell even by the Declaration of Independence and/or the Treaty of Paris? :)

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    If the funding

    

    teknosapien, Jul 22nd, 2009 @ 1:38pm

    
    

    Came from the local taxes levied against the people that live there are they not in essence the owners of said pictures?

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    chris (profile), Jul 22nd, 2009 @ 2:04pm

    
    

    I just wanted to inquire what strategy, if any, might I take, short of destroying the camera itself, to get rid of them.
    
    find out how much the 40% of the camera tickets net for the city annually and offer to pay the city more than that amount for a year with no cameras.
    
    speed cameras are about revenue, plain and simple. you want the cameras gone, you have to provide more revenue to the town than the cameras do.

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2009 @ 3:05pm

    
    

    Slam on the brakes at those intersections. Get the folks behind you to rear-end you. An increase in accidents at those intersections will show that the cameras are more a probelm than a solution.

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 22nd, 2009 @ 3:27pm

    
    

    Find out relevant laws dealing with yellow period, and time the yellow period to make sure that the camera is legal, as there is an incentive to lower the yellow period of such cameras.

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    Clean that camera!

    

    Pure Evil, Jul 22nd, 2009 @ 4:56pm

    
    

    Speed cameras get dirty due to exposure to weather and the environment.
    
    So it is your duty as a good citizen/subject to attach some steel wool to the end of a long stick, and clean the camera's windows. To do a better job, wet the steel wool with ammonia to clean plexiglass, and dental flouride treatment gel to clean glass windows.
    
    >:D

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    Pay Back

    

    GHynson, Jul 22nd, 2009 @ 5:12pm

    
    

    I say,..hook up with the mayors daughter, and have the red light take a picture of you two F&*@ing in the back seat of a convertable as your friend runs the red light. Then post it on the web as copyright photos.

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    JB, Jul 22nd, 2009 @ 5:35pm

    
    

    I just wanted to inquire what strategy, if any, might I take, short of destroying the camera itself, to get rid of them.
    
    The city council members are elected, aren't they?

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    Re: So what would happen

    

    ChrisB (profile), Jul 23rd, 2009 @ 3:52am

    
    

    If you made your car a work of art, then copyright wouldn't cover that particular part of the photo.

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    My comment

    

    Joe Dirt, Jul 23rd, 2009 @ 4:01am

    
    

    Oh you have got to be kidding,this story is so silly!

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    Welcome to the machine

    

    ..., Jul 23rd, 2009 @ 5:28am

    
    

    They do not care about your guilt or not ...
    just pay the fine like a good robot.
    
    Shuffle along your merry way,
    do not look and have a good day.

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 23rd, 2009 @ 5:06pm

    
    

    What about lost sales? Eh? Each person that watches these pictures doesn't buy the police bullshit.

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    Re: Strike a blow for freedom

    

    Someone, Oct 17th, 2009 @ 4:30am

    
    

    by NullOp
    paintball gun
    
    +1 for a paintball gun. Throw in a ski mask for bonus points and extra protection.
    
    All honesty, this is just flat out silly and frankly a waste of the UK tax payers money to even issue copyright warnings, let alone an actual suit.
    
    So when do millions of these photos get stolen out of the backseat of some boneheads car? It is the UK after all - wont take long I am sure.

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    evision, Feb 25th, 2010 @ 8:28pm

    
    

    http://www.journalism.co.uk/2/articles/531338.php

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