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by Mike Masnick

Wed, May 20th 2009 10:01am




Filed Under:
copyright, lawsuits, sweden

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Music Labels Trying To Force Pirate Bay Offline Now

from the hmm dept

Earlier this month, we noted that the record labels were already stretching The Pirate Bay ruling to use it to go after web hosting firms who clearly were far separated from the actions of their clients. And, of course, the ruling itself is both being disputed, due to conflicts of interest, and also being appealed. But, it appears that the record labels are so freaked out by how badly the ruling has backfired on the industry that they're trying to do anything to regain what they think (incorrectly) is the moral victory. Among the web hosting firms they're approaching is the one that provides bandwidth to The Pirate Bay, and the music labels are demanding it to stop. Also, the labels are demanding more money. This is notable because for all the problems with the original ruling, it didn't do two things: order the site shut down or provide any guidelines regarding future infringement. So, now it appears that the labels are simply taking that matter into their own hands and interpreting the ruling beyond what it actually said. At some point, will they actually realize that everything they do here is just making things worse for themselves?

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    Dave (profile), May 20th, 2009 @ 10:24am

    I'm surprised you asked.

    "At some point, will they actually realize that everything they do here is just making things worse for themselves?"

    No. Next question.

     

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    Chronno S. Trigger, May 20th, 2009 @ 10:43am

    Bandwidth

    Is that why the Pirate Bay has a sucky connection today? I thought it was my internet connection.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 20th, 2009 @ 10:51am

    yaaaaawn. These losers can keep beating their heads against the wall. History will repeat itself and there will be better sites that emerge when/if they kill pirate bay.

     

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    Adam Wexler, May 20th, 2009 @ 11:03am

    Mike - I like how we are specifically referring to these inconsequential efforts from the music LABELS these days. The industry is alive and well...and The Pirate Bay might be one of the "healthiest" reminders of that

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 20th, 2009 @ 11:06am

    Put they won't have that style. The Pirate Bay has that whole pirate flair going for it. Their attitude is notably different than other torrent sites. More human, less of an automatically generated feel.

     

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    Stute, May 20th, 2009 @ 11:13am

    Heres my question

    When will the labels be sued for extortion?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 20th, 2009 @ 12:23pm

    Re: Heres my question

    When People across America educate themselves to the fact that the Copyright Lobby is working super hard to ensure you get all the Negative Rights you never knew you wanted.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_rights#When_positive_and_negative_rights_conflict

     

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    FatCat, May 20th, 2009 @ 12:24pm

    Re: Heres my question

    Stute, that is a very good question!!!

     

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    Open DNS, May 20th, 2009 @ 12:27pm

    Re: Bandwidth

    Use open dns on you router, I had the same issue. after changing turn everything off and reboot, should route right around their weak attempt.

    The #s are below, if you cannot find in your router do it on you network connection directly in the TCP/IP properties.

    208.67.222.222
    208.67.220.220

     

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    Chronno S. Trigger, May 20th, 2009 @ 1:11pm

    Re: Re: Bandwidth

    Always have.

    TPB is better now. I do believe it was my ISP doing it (not targeting TPB just running slow), what I posted was just a joke.

     

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    Movie Fan, May 20th, 2009 @ 5:09pm

    It's funny

    I've bought several movies as a result of bit torrent. They were movies that I'd only been marginally interested in or, because of the boringness of where I was, simply needed *something* to watch. I've been pleasantly surprised enough by some movies that, rather than *never* bothering to even rent them, I discovered that I wanted to buy them.

     

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    TPBer, May 20th, 2009 @ 5:14pm

    Re: Re: Re: Bandwidth

    Sorry, should have known better from your past posts, FWIW they have been jacking with mine also.

     

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    Lawrence D'Oliveiro, May 20th, 2009 @ 11:56pm

    As If That’s Not Enough...

    Apparently the plaintiffs are appealing the verdict—as if winning wasn’t enough—because they reckon the penalty was too low.

     

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    TFP, May 21st, 2009 @ 2:11am

    The music biz

    Shutting the internet down - one site at a time.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 21st, 2009 @ 3:22am

    :P

     

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    Entertainment Industry, May 21st, 2009 @ 7:05pm

    1// +3h ||008

    Wait, you mean that all our problems won't magically go away if we shut down the interwebs?

     

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    Brian, Jun 2nd, 2009 @ 3:38pm

    the internets is not a dumptruck..

     

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