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   intriguing

   

   Buzz, May 4th, 2009 @ 8:00pm

   
   

   Like you said, I don't agree with these developers' approaches. They're mixing and matching pseudo scarcities.
   
   I plan on entering the game development arena and setting all digital aspects free.

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   Well

   

   Anonymous Coward, May 4th, 2009 @ 8:57pm

   
   

   I look at it this way at least they are TRYING to change their business model to continue to try and make money by giving their fans more of what they want and treating them less like criminals who deserve to be locked away because all of them are pirates. They will probably find this model isn't the best way to go about things and will continue to improve on it but I like the fact that at least they, unlike the Retarded Ignorant Asshole Association and hollycrap who keep trying to sue everybody and maintain an archaic business model.

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   Felix Pleșoianu, May 4th, 2009 @ 9:02pm

   
   

   Even if the shareware model in itself may not bring in so much money, it can be a springboard for selling true scarcities. Such as, I don't know, expertise? Id Software did just that. Then again, they always strive for excellence...

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   Anonymous Coward, May 4th, 2009 @ 11:40pm

   
   

   what was wrong with the "old shareware" market?
   
   i still have the game Raptor: Call of the Shadows.

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   Big 'ol Fuzzy hug

   

   Blatant Coward, May 5th, 2009 @ 1:27am

   
   

   City of Heroes/Villains allows players to make, share, rate, and make a profit (ingame merits, a nonmonetary currency for ingame goods) while these players have not paid for the game other than subscription fees, they have literally doubled the number of missions/tasks in a week that the developers have created in 5 years.
   
   So a business model that doesn't have players paying, but has them building your game for you, for nonscarce goods, howzat sound?

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   What scarcities?

   

   JL (profile), May 5th, 2009 @ 6:13am

   
   

   The best business models I've seen for making money in video games is the MMO market - where you can't play unless you log on (which requires a license key).
   
   For single player games on your PC I can't see where the scarcities are, good thing I'm not a developer.
   
   Valve's Steam platform really seems to be the way to go. The experiment I'd love to see is allowing customers to play games for free for one weekend a month, but if they want to play during the rest of the month they need to buy a license. Letting people get a taste before dropping $50 will really benefit the good games. Very low prices can benefit the bad games.

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   Re: Big 'ol Fuzzy hug

   

   CoH/V Fan, May 5th, 2009 @ 6:28am

   
   

   Last I checked, CoH/V did require you to buy the game, since NCsoft won't ley you register an account without a valid CD key. You can buy online, though, so you don't need a real CD to get the CD Key.
   
   That being said, NCsoft does do some interesting things as far as selling their stuff. they have players giving them money every month in terms of subscription fees, and they semi-regularly come out with huge, free updates to the game. (I imagine your posts refers to their new Mission Architecht system). They also have 'bonus packs' that they sell for about $10 that grant access to special costume pieces and emotes in the game, and they sell extra character slots.
   
   Guild Wars, also from NCsoft, has no subscription fee, but also has fewer free updates to the game. They also sell extra character slots, and packs that unlock certain PvP content (which you can unlock yourself by playing the solo game).
   
   They have a few other games, including a completely free Dungeon Runners game, but I'm not sure, really, how much any of them really sell scarcities (aside from subscription fees).

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   Re: What scarcities?

   

   Anonymous Coward, May 5th, 2009 @ 6:32am

   
   

   The better way is to require a subscription to log in, and give the software away to anyone who wants it. Especially with MMOs, the more people playing your game, the better it is for everyone else. Compare the ghost-town of Star Wars Galaxy to WoW's crowded servers. Even with the griefers and wait times, people pile on to Blizzard's servers. (Course, it may be that SWG's sucky game play has something to do with it's death, but...)
   
   And subscriptions are better (for the business) than liscences because they're steady revenue, rather than bursty, and it gets players paying you constantly, rather than just when they start playing.

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   Re: Re: What scarcities?

   

   minijedimaster, May 5th, 2009 @ 7:40am

   
   

   Yes, the revenue stream is more steady with a subscription based model, but along with that you have to constantly provide a reason for the users to keep paying for the game. That means constant updates and additional material to keep the game from stagnating and to keep people happy.

   This means paying not only for the upkeep of the servers, but paying for the programmers for coding etc.

   This isn't the best model out there to make money I bet unless you have a LOT of users like WoW. Of course this is all just me guessing as I don't work in this industry...

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    Re: Re: Big 'ol Fuzzy hug

    

    Blatant Coward, May 5th, 2009 @ 3:52pm

    
    

    It'd been so long ago that I bought it I had forgotten you do have to do so, but you also get a month's service along with the purchase so it's paying for the game and getting the first month as well.

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    Size of market

    

    Luz Reyes, Sep 27th, 2010 @ 12:25pm

    
    

    If the number of users is small, this is by definition a risky market for game development. It seems that this number must be great enough to be perceived as the "original" network.

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