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   ryan, Apr 22nd, 2009 @ 3:48am

   
   

   So if I live in a bad neighborhood, where mail theft is a problem, and I decide to use a P.O. box instead, am I subject to increased sentencing if I send or am sent mail of a fraudulent nature?
   
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   con't

   

   ryan, Apr 22nd, 2009 @ 3:52am

   
   

   ..or what about when I use a prepaid phone instead of a land line or a mobile with an annual contract?
   
   Give me a break.
   
   While I appreciate their ruling to this point, legislators, politicians, and judges need to understand the technology before acting on it. Just like everything else. Funny how that works.
   
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   Anonymous Coward, Apr 22nd, 2009 @ 5:14am

   
   

   Guess I should stop purchasing things off the intarwebs.

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   Guilty!

   

   Government Spy, Apr 22nd, 2009 @ 5:43am

   
   

   >..or what about when I use a prepaid phone instead of a
   >land line or a mobile with an annual contract?
   
   Using a pre-paid phone?! You must be a terrorist or drug dealer! Guilty! Guilty! Crucify him! Crucify Him!
   
   Of course, I love how something that most computer savy people (and sometimes the not so savy) know and use is "sophisticated" to the completely ignorant judges and prosecutors.

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   But.....

   

   Norm, Apr 22nd, 2009 @ 6:02am

   
   

   .....if you were a criminal you would use a PO Box, prepaid phone card and a proxy server....is that 3 strikes?!

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   Uh huh...

   

   Tgeigs, Apr 22nd, 2009 @ 6:08am

   
   

   "...the Commission has rejected this concept for now"
   
   Sure, until they can dream up a way to call someone using VPN/Proxy as a "terrorist" and then it's all over. Again.

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   Overcast, Apr 22nd, 2009 @ 6:22am

   
   

   A "proxy" server is as much a criminal tool as a radio is - it's just a means of relaying information. The idea of using them to bounce around to make tracking harder isn't going to go away, even if people who use "proxy" servers are "criminals".
   
   I could make a prank call by proxy too - I could call a friend, who calls a friend, who calls a friend - all inverting their phones, holding the speaker to the microphone and layer the call 4 or 5 times. Just another type of 'proxy' really.
   
   Perhaps we should take a lesson from Government here - and no longer call them "Proxy Servers" but now let's exercise our right to doublespeak and call them "broker servers" or maybe "intermediary servers" - would that make them ok?
   
   After all - waterboarding isn't torture - it's just waterboarding - at least that's what the last Oval office attendant said.

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   proxies are sooooo sophisticated

   

   chris (profile), Apr 22nd, 2009 @ 6:54am

   
   

   clicking that box and entering the ip and port in those text fields. that's super sophisticated.
   
   and using a firefox add-on like foxy proxy that handles proxies for you... that is beyond sophisticated.
   
   and going to a website and typing a URL into a blank and hitting the submit button, that's practically rocket science.

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   Re: proxies are sooooo sophisticated

   

   Judge Schmales, Apr 22nd, 2009 @ 7:04am

   
   

   IP = Intellectual Property?
   Port = Port of call for some illegal shipment?
   Text Field = A magical glen where thoughts are grown like corn?
   Firefox = Call sign for a F-22 Raptor's missle array?
   Foxy Proxy = The call girl I ordered last night?
   URL = Unregistered Retarded Latino?
   
   Forget it, I'm going golfing

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    Re: Uh huh...

    

    TX CHL Instructor (profile), Apr 22nd, 2009 @ 9:08am

    
    

    In Missouri, you are considered a potential terrorist if you support and defend the US Constitution..
    --
    http://www.chl-tx.com I support the US Constitution. All of it, not just the convenient parts.

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    Two thoughts.

    

    Anonymous of Course, Apr 22nd, 2009 @ 9:40am

    
    

    If people would receive a harsher sentences for using a proxy during the commission of a crime, shouldn't the same hold true for wearing a ski-mask during a crime?
    
    A proxy is just a tool, like a crowbar. If person is
    caught with a crowbar after breaking into a house
    they'll be charged with possession of burglary tools.
    Why is this different?

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    Re: Uh huh...

    

    The infamous Joe, Apr 22nd, 2009 @ 9:43am

    
    

    someone using VPN/Proxy as a "terrorist" and then it's all over
    
    We don't use that t-word anymore, I'm told. They're now man-caused disaster technicians.
    
    ..or something like that. :P

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    Re: Re: proxies are sooooo sophisticated

    

    The infamous Joe, Apr 22nd, 2009 @ 9:45am

    
    

    You should always register your retarded latinos.
    
    Always.

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    Re: Re: Re: proxies are sooooo sophisticated

    

    Tgeigs, Apr 22nd, 2009 @ 9:56am

    
    

    I really wanted to post that comment under my usual name, simply because I thought it was funny, but picturing Judge Schmales saying it was even better.

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    Re: Re: Uh huh...

    

    Tgeigs, Apr 22nd, 2009 @ 9:58am

    
    

    Agreed, my bad. I was just thinking about all of the misdirection used to go to war after the "Religion-based economic venue deconstruction" that occured in NYC in 2001...

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    Re: Re: proxies are sooooo sophisticated

    

    Yakko Warner, Apr 22nd, 2009 @ 10:08am

    
    

    You win. Lock the comments.

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    Slackr, Apr 22nd, 2009 @ 3:58pm

    
    

    Anyone want to wager how much they spent coming to this ground-breaking conclusion? Best Use of Funds Award 2009?

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