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   Anonymous Coward, Mar 3rd, 2009 @ 12:32pm

   
   

   What's good about the agreement??? That would be nothing.

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   Name a DRM...

   

   :Lobo Santo, Mar 3rd, 2009 @ 12:35pm

   
   

   Name a DRM which has never been defeated; and I'll name one which was just created.

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   Angry Dude?

   

   Anonymous Coward, Mar 3rd, 2009 @ 12:36pm

   
   

   Hey man, how come we haven't heard from your one-balled code-writing person??

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   Re: Angry Dude?

   

   Anonymous Coward, Mar 3rd, 2009 @ 1:19pm

   
   

   One-balled code-writing person? You mean Angry Dude?

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   Re: Angry Dude?

   

   Anonymous Coward, Mar 3rd, 2009 @ 1:23pm

   
   

   He's busy starting his acting career, being Phistophicles.
   
   http://www.phistophicles.com/

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   Seems true ...

   

   Stuart, Mar 3rd, 2009 @ 1:35pm

   
   

   but I just can't ever really trust anything Mike writes. Its either true cause it proves his world view or twisted because the truth dose not prove his world view. 50/50

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   Re: Seems true ...

   

   Mike (profile), Mar 3rd, 2009 @ 1:44pm

   
   

   but I just can't ever really trust anything Mike writes. Its either true cause it proves his world view or twisted because the truth dose not prove his world view. 50/50
   
   This is a conversation. I link to the source materials, so you are free to go read through all the details you like -- and then I state my opinion. If you think I got something wrong, I'd appreciate you telling me. But no one is saying that you have to believe my opinion. If you disagree with me, I expect you to say so. That's how the conversation works.
   
   I can't respond to accusations claiming I twist stuff around when you don't provide an example.

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   Mike twists things around

   

   Grab, Mar 3rd, 2009 @ 1:48pm

   
   

   I saw him using a twist-tie to reclose a loaf of bread! I am 99% sure he did the same with a package of hamburger buns last week.

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   Google DRM

   

   Anonymous Coward, Mar 3rd, 2009 @ 2:16pm

   
   

   I would of never expected google to use DRM. Lost some respect for them

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    Re: Seems true ...

    

    some old guy, Mar 3rd, 2009 @ 2:33pm

    
    

    but I just can't ever really trust anything Mike writes. Its either true cause it proves his world view or twisted because the truth dose not prove his world view. 50/50
    
    You seem to say that alot. Are you capable of saying anything else?

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    expect?

    

    zcat, Mar 3rd, 2009 @ 3:16pm

    
    

    I would expect google to do whatever is best for their bottom line. "Don't be evil" only goes so far. RMS has the best advice here; never buy DRM-restricted media unless you already know how to circumvent it. And always choose the same content on non-restricted media if you're given the option

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    Re: Mike twists things around

    

    Barg, Mar 3rd, 2009 @ 4:58pm

    
    

    Twist-ties for bread? How 1920s. Someone, please get Mike a Traco SS-18DS Deluxe Super Sealer Shrink Wrap Machine System W/Heat Gun.

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    Print is always better

    

    Old Geezer, Mar 3rd, 2009 @ 6:36pm

    
    

    So, what exactly are you paying for and how much would it cost compared to the same material in print? In order to be feasible, the electronic version needs to be greatly discounted due to the reduced value.
    
    I like having the book on a shelf, it's there when I need it. I can correct errors and make notes in it and if I do not need it anymore, I can sell it.
    
    The whole electronic book thing seems a bit like a product in search of a market - and here's the scary part, when the market does not magically appear they will try to shove it down your throat.

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    Need a New Motto

    

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Mar 3rd, 2009 @ 7:02pm

    
    

    Like I said before, Google need a new motto. Instead of “Don’t Be Evil”, it should be “Don’t Be Bloody Stupid”.

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    Re: Print is always better

    

    Trevlac, Mar 3rd, 2009 @ 7:28pm

    
    

    Out of everything I've read in this conversation so far nothing made me rage harder that seeing that you write in books.

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    Nick (profile), Mar 4th, 2009 @ 12:01am

    
    

    The other parts of this program that are alarming are that the settlement grants Google the exclusive rights to sell access to orphaned works in this ebook format and that these terms were negotiated in secrecy. You can check out my post here.

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    Re: Google DRM

    

    Killer_Tofu (profile), Mar 4th, 2009 @ 7:18am

    
    

    I have been losing respect for them a lot over the last half year to year.
    They keep making lots of decisions these days that do not represent the public's interest.
    They are starting to fall in line with Microsoft in bending over and taking it in the rear from the copyright folks.

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    Who needs google books

    

    Tom, Mar 4th, 2009 @ 8:38am

    
    

    Who needs google books anyway? Check out this cool site that has recentlyh gone up. It is in the works (beta), but offer a great alternative to google!!! I found that it works best with firefox. http://www.kirtasbooks.com

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    Free Ebooks, Apr 15th, 2009 @ 7:18pm

    
    

    It's really too bad. I expected more of Google. Should I sell my stocks?

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