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NY Politicians Can't Resist: Still Want To Pass Law Banning Sale Of Violent Video Games

from the why-bother-defending-the-constitution-when-we-can-suck-up-to-special-interests? dept

Despite the fact that yet another state's attempt at passing a law banning the sale of certain video games to children was just tossed out as unconstitutional (as have seven other similar laws), politicians in NY insist on moving forward with their own attempt at passing the same kind of law. Once again, it will do absolutely nothing but waste taxpayer money as it goes to the courts and gets tossed out as being unconstitutional again. As the article notes, politicians don't care about that. They simply want to have something they can point to as showing that they're working hard to "protect the children." People vote for that and ignore the fact that the laws are unconstitutional and a total waste of time and taxpayer money for both the politicians and the courts.

Meanwhile, as Slashdot highlights in a similar story, there's a fantastic quote from Judge Richard Posner concerning this issue: "Violence has always been and remains a central interest of humankind and a recurrent, even obsessive theme of culture both high and low ... It engages the interest of children from an early age, as anyone familiar with the classic fairy tales collected by Grimm, Andersen, and Perrault are aware. To shield children right up to the age of 18 from exposure to violent descriptions and images would not only be quixotic, but deforming; it would leave them unequipped to cope with the world as we know it." That seems worth remembering.

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  1. at least someone has his head out of his a** by buckykat on Aug 21st, 2007 @ 11:29pm

    first becoming aware of world issues during the bush administration can cause cynicism. thank goodness that at least one of the people in charge can get past the "protect the children" BS and see the real issue.

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  2. by GoblinJuice on Aug 22nd, 2007 @ 12:00am

    Will this bullshit ever end?

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  3. by Dan on Aug 22nd, 2007 @ 12:33am

    Replay to second post


    With video games, eventually, then it will just switch to another medium

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  4. by Peter on Aug 22nd, 2007 @ 12:58am

    Ban video games and let Violent criminals go free. Sorry my mistake the are all ready doing it.

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  5. Talk about grandiose... by August West on Aug 22nd, 2007 @ 2:43am

    So the politicians know how to raise all the kids in N.Y. Better than all those kids' parents?

    Typical, take the responsibility away from the parents. Parental authority for kids, not government authority. Duh....

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  6. Checklist... by Sanguine Dream on Aug 22nd, 2007 @ 5:58am

    Things the government must pitch a fit about in order to "protect the children".

    1. Movies - Check
    2. Musics - Check
    3. Books - Check
    4. Videogames - Check
    5. ???

    I wonder what medium will be the next victim?

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  7. by Overcast on Aug 22nd, 2007 @ 6:05am

    Yes, I agree with the above - only if violent movies, books, music, magazine, and the like fall under this law too.

    Oh and Violent politicians too.

    You know - we could just burn the books, movies, video games and everything the government says is bad to protect our children - what a GREAT idea!!!

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  8. A clever judge by Neverhood on Aug 22nd, 2007 @ 6:41am

    Very well said Judge Richard Posner. Couldn't agree more.
    Here in Denmark (North Europe), we have a good laugh every time the Americans, with all their weapons, goes ape shit over a few pixels showing blood or knifes or whatever.

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  9. by Overcast on Aug 22nd, 2007 @ 6:56am

    BAN THE GAMES BAN THE GAMES!!

    And let the pedophiles go free!!

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,294004,00.html

    F'in "justice" system

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  10. Banning The Sale Of Violent Video Games by Eric James on Aug 22nd, 2007 @ 8:11am

    As the judge states in the quote in the article it is not in our best interest to completely shield children from violence. When kids were watching the GI Joe cartoons in the 80's got the impression that violent acts didn't lead to death because the censors insisted that no one actually gets killed if it was going to be shown to children. So they kept the violence but removed any consequences of the violence. When a car exploded the occupants would just walk away. Kids thought that this was what happened in the real world and that they could just jump away out of the path of bullets and explosions and survive. Violence is a part of life and shouldn't be hidden but explained and examined so that our children understand the price of violence and cause and effects of violent acts so that they learn to avoid them.

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  11. Forget it by Anonymous Coward on Aug 22nd, 2007 @ 9:18am

    Don't ban the games, movies, etc. Just ban children, then we can really have some good stuff.

    Come on won't somebody think of the adults!

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  12. Re: Checklist... by nipseyrussell on Aug 22nd, 2007 @ 9:37am

    i think we all know # 5 is ....well, heres a hint, you're using it right now

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  13. by GoblinJuice on Aug 22nd, 2007 @ 9:43am

    Maaan, you wanna ban violent crap? Go watch Hostel 2. The bathroom / shower scene was sick. (The one where the chic is hung upside-down.)

    I ain't never seen anything like that GTA:SA! =( And I thought the media had desensitized me!

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  14. Banning Video Games by Mr. Ridiculous on Aug 22nd, 2007 @ 1:18pm

    Maybe we should focus on the games that can help instead of the games which "hurt" (although I still don't see how they hurt children, if children are not supposed to be playing them due to ESRB and Retailers enforcing these steps). With 60% of Americans considered obese and 13% of all American children considered obese shouldn't we focus more on this issue and promote games which include/stress physical movement, such as games for the Nintendo Wii?

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  15. Video Game Banners... Go to hell!!!!!! by Hilston on Dec 14th, 2007 @ 4:10pm

    This is fucking bullshit! If the public wants to limit how much violence kids are exposed to they will, so that fucking dumb politician in NY can stick his head up his fucking retarded ass. Give me Video Games or Give Me Death!!!

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