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   Morgan, Jun 5th, 2007 @ 7:33am

   
   

   Points out why neutrality is unnecessary

   This is precisely the kind of thing for the marketplace to work out. Obviously their gambit backfired, and not only did they lose the PR battle, they likely lost customers over the outrage.
   
   So I still fail to see how telco abuse is somehow going to be a continuing problem. It never works out for them, and it is never permanent, and people can leave their ISP.
   
   So I wonder what legislative magic bullet will somehow keep this from happening, and have no ill effects no one thought of later.

    

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   Anonymous Coward, Jun 5th, 2007 @ 8:24am

   
   

   In many area's there is only one ISP, especially if you want broadband. So you can't leave.

    

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   Kyros, Jun 5th, 2007 @ 8:32am

   
   

   Sad. I can't find the videos, but maybe it'll have a streisand effect and help to get out the unions message?

    

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   Unions need to DIE!, Jun 5th, 2007 @ 8:37am

   
   

   Way to go!
   
   It is time to dismantle all unions. It must be done now to allow all to have a future!
   
   VIVA LA REVOLUCION!

    

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   James, Jun 5th, 2007 @ 8:38am

   
   

   Hmmmm...

   ..maybe instead of a stupid union the employees should all just quit and go elsewhere. Lets see them run a stupid company w/o employees.
   
   I find this companies actions deplorable, yet I find unions dispicable. Go figure.

    

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   Anonymous of Course, Jun 5th, 2007 @ 8:40am

   
   

   Bogus DMCA claims

   What recourse does the union or the
   owners of the videos have concerning
   the bogus DMCA requests? Is Telus
   commiting fraud?
   
   Hopefully YouTube will tell them to
   pound sand but it seems the default
   position is to just take down the
   video and avoid problems (for them.)
   Which is understandable.

    

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   badfrog, Jun 5th, 2007 @ 9:12am

   
   

   Re: Bogus DMCA claims

   Knowingly filing a bogus DMCA takedown request is perjury, though AFAIK no one has attempted to make that stick yet.

    

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   haywood, Jun 5th, 2007 @ 9:40am

   
   

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   I have mixed feelings about unions. They are kind of like the Army, really needed when you have a legitimate problem, useless & perhaps dangerous to have around the rest of the time. This coming from a retired Teamster.

    

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   crucible, Jun 5th, 2007 @ 10:07am

   
   

   Telus Latest To Misuse Copyright Law

   This is so skanky! I don't have any great love for unions but I despise abuse of power even more. My cell service is with these people but happily not for long.

    

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    DCX2, Jun 5th, 2007 @ 11:43am

    
    

    Re: Re: Bogus DMCA claims

    Telus is a Canadian ISP. Do they even have the right to issue a DMCA request? If they do, and it's filed wrongfully, can they even be counter-notified, seeing as how they reside outside of US jurisdiction?

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jun 5th, 2007 @ 12:00pm

    
    

    Knowing the Telus union intimately I have to say you don't want to hear their message. When BCTel joined Telus they brought with them everything that was wrong.

     

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    Phil, Jun 8th, 2007 @ 1:42pm

    
    

    Re: Re: Re: Bogus DMCA claims

    Good Point. I was wondering about this too.

     

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    Not Darren, Jul 21st, 2008 @ 3:18pm

    
    

    Telus Idol...er idle.

    This is just Telus being Telus.
    
    The only thing more arrogant than the way they treat the Union is the way the employees treat the public who disagree with the company.
    
    Much like people who "drink the Kool Aid", these guys find anyone who doesn't like Telus and dares to blog or post about it and insult them.
    
    Do or don't do business with them. Telus enjoys the monopoly they purchased from AGT in Alberta, and some people literally have no other choice.
    
    But you can pick any one of many reasons, their Telus Idol fiasco, hiring goons to stalk Union members and attack them (you can read about that online as well), or their 2.95 "access fee" (ironically from the company behind Koodo mobile which pitches itself as against this garbage), their part in the 15 cent text message cash grab, I mean really...is there any end?
    
    Ultimately, though, their competition also sends Canadian jobs overseas, and does any one of a number of things that would make a normal person want to puke.
    
    Deal with the devil or save up millions and start up your own company. I share the mattress with the devil on this one. Everyone sucks, everyone's dirty, put on your big girl panties.

     

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