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Stopping Terrorists... By Making It Illegal To Sell Them Domain Names?
from the yeah,-that'll-work dept
Politicians just love to come up with laws that make it look like they're doing something -- even if the laws are totally meaningless. Apparently, in New York, a law has been proposed that would make it a crime to sell or give a terrorist a domain name. As Eric Goldman points out on his site, this seems pretty ridiculous. It's certainly not going to stop any terrorists -- who you would have to imagine probably aren't going to register their latest .com domain under the official name of whatever terrorist organization will be using it. Furthermore, this should just make life difficult for any registrar. Most automatically process domain sales -- but now may have to waste time adding in some sort of middle step to make sure the registering organization isn't on a list of terrorist organizations. This seems like a total waste of time. If terrorists were actually registering domains under their real names and addresses, wouldn't that just make it easier to track them down?
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You need to have a full hand of cards before you can properly look at this issue.
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Greenpeace, for example, fits the definition of a *terrorist* organization. As does any other environmental organization that mentions the existence of Greenpeace; i.e giving aid and comfort to the enemy. Likewise any other enviromental organization that organizes any public protest resulting in any arrests, regardless of the relationship between the organization and the arrestee. Likewise any environmental organization that uses, or makes public, any information regarding environmental violations that is acquired through such *crime* as trespassing, or photographing *trade secrets*, or however far the current administration wishes to take it. Any possible legal oversight is removed by fact of the activity falling under various *terrorism* laws.
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Lets think laterally for a moment...
The US Army made great PR over their use of "Shock and Awe"?
So, what this law will, in effect do is to outlaw many American .GOV domains. I can live with that.
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Re: Lets think laterally for a moment...
Dickhead.
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First Amendment anyone?
I'm not saying registering a domain is a right, but expression is - and as the internet has had a mostly 'hands off' policy, I mean, come on..
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Provides without charge
Perhaps, the bill's author was responding to the recently publicized news about website recruitment and was seeking a way to retaliate against ISPs or Web developers who conspire with or aid them.
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Although the wording sounds like it would come from one of the a-holes that run our state, I cannot find any information on the sponsor(s). NYS purges their web-site at the end of the year so you cannot search their site. Google came up with 1 hit and that linked to Eric Goldman.
I would like to find out who the sponsor(s) were so we could bring them some well deserved public ridicule.
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It's part of a two pronged attack
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"...any website or domain that says anything not in line with
current government policy.....Bla Bla bla.....
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Best way to combat terrorism
Quit fighting the "War on Drugs", and just legalize and regulate them. That will remove the profit from that industry. Then spend the money saved on development of biodiesel, EV, and solar technologies. We only have to reduce our foreign oil dependence by about 25% in order to completely cut off the muslim OPEC countries.
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this is a useless law. terrorism doesn't operate within the law, so passing laws to stop it is stupid. they'll just do everything they need to do illegally.
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If I were to demonstrate my distaste for the way things are being run, I'd be labelled a terrorist and probably face some jail time. If I were to try to invoke a violent revolution, I'd face the death penalty. The things our forefathers fought and died for, specifically the right of the people to govern, and to protect that right, is now illegal. We can choose our ruler, but we can't choose our government.
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Yea, and dubya had JFK assassinated.
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FFS
I feel glad in one way because over here the queen is required by law to personally sign off every law passed. Hence if there were any truly communistic laws I feel that we may have a buffer. In reality we will have to wait and see if that happens, and if it does what will happen.
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Brady bill for domain names
We could weed them out with background checks.
...damn blog terrorists.
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its just pathetic lool completely pathetic
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And I don't follow the thought process about moving to a "Middle East hell hole"...? I'm in Scotland, passing comment on some very public stupidity from the US Government. Where does the Middle East come into this? Do you somehow think all "terrorists" come from the Middle East? Or are you just proud that your Government has led the way in taking many marginally unpleasant countries all the way to full "hell hole" status?
To summarise, fuck off you arsehole.
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Umm
So go start your own country if you don't like it, become the next great superpower if you think your ideas are so great.
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So go somewhere else
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Re: #14 and #15 nailed it on the head
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#14, #15, #24
But yes, we need to get our country back... government by the people for the people... not by the lobbyists for the politicians. And this idea is gaining ground... there are many who talk and think this way. America is on the verge of a turnaround... give it maybe one or two generations, we'll wake up.
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!!!!!
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Re: Best way to combat terrorism
Quit fighting the "War on Drugs", and just legalize and regulate them. That will remove the profit from that industry. Then spend the money saved on development of biodiesel, EV, and solar technologies. We only have to reduce our foreign oil dependence by about 25% in order to completely cut off the muslim OPEC countries.
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This will never happen as long as there is so much money to be made by owning stock in the large pharmaceutical companies... Eli Lilly has been trying to synthesize the chemicals that make pot what it is for years now, with only middlin' success.
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Terrorists = Person who disagrees
They have to silence that web somehow!
e.g. Palestine's elected government is on the terrorist list and as a result US news outlets only report the Israeli side. If an Israeli cluster bomb kills 14 people, the Israeli's call them 14 terrorists. That doesn't make sense, since perfect cluster bombs don't exist, yet there is no voice to call them on their bllsht, except for the web.
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You *are* joking right? This is a serious question - under present US law what constitutes a terrorist group? Would Greenpeace really be included?
Just curious to see if I'm about to be deported for funding terrorism in that case
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seriously... if you're going to try and make someone sound uneducated, at least make a point that has merit. its not like this country was the land of the free when the colonists first landed. it was a colony of england. they more "seceded" the country as opposed to "leaving" it. so please, go back to first grade, i think you missed the day they went over the Revolutionary War.
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