Hollywood Unhappy With Google (Again)

from the here-we-go dept

Google has a delicate relationship with Hollywood and media companies, as evidenced by many of their feelings about YouTube. But the issues go beyond its own efforts, as now a group of media companies are irked with Google because they say it benefits from film piracy. This has nothing to do with their copyrighted content that turns up on YouTube, but rather because Google sold ads to some guys running a website that sold some shady software to help people find movies to download from P2P networks. The allegations that Google's somehow responsible for furthering piracy by selling ads for these sites are a bit tenuous, but given the frosty relationship with media companies, it's not surprising to see that Google's decided to instill some more controls on ads it sells, particularly for keywords leading to sites like these. These sorts of issues will become more prevalent for Google as it looks to build up things like YouTube and Google Video, and the media companies fail to see the benefits they deliver and focus instead on feeling exploited and abused by them. But Google's set the precedent of making deals with copyright holders, giving Hollywood the expectation that it gets to decide what is and isn't acceptable for Google to do, and determining just how much it's going to cost them.


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    Bumbling old fool, Feb 12th, 2007 @ 11:56am

    Life as a spectator (R - for Rerun)

    I can honestly say it's fun watching google completely bungle this youtube thing.

    Only because they never should have bought it... The First Mistake (tm) of google was buying youtube.

    Once you accept that as fact, the event is rather enjoyable to watch.

     

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    MadJo (profile), Feb 12th, 2007 @ 12:43pm

    Re: Life as a spectator (R - for Rerun)

    This has nothing to do with Youtube, but with some stupid idiots running a piracy website. And apparently they had google-ads on it (like million other websites) and that is why Hollywood wants to go after Google, since they clearly agree with piracy by providing the ads...

     

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    no google fan, Feb 12th, 2007 @ 12:45pm

    Google IS evil

    Face it. Google does make money by expropriating material. You may like YouTube and find it useful, but that doesn't it legal.

    Carrying advertisements for tools to help people break the law is just another example of how amoral the company is. Why should it surprise anyone that a company responsible for wholesale copyright violations has been advertising tools to allow people to violate copyrights?

    This is no different from advertising burglary tools.

     

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    Andrew, Feb 12th, 2007 @ 1:03pm

    Thats like saying Holywood is responsible for obes

    because they advertise for McDonald's before the previews... how rediculous!

     

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    Rupert, Feb 12th, 2007 @ 1:04pm

    Hmmm

    A tool is a tool...

    A hammer can be used to build a house, or to break into one.

     

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    zcat, Feb 12th, 2007 @ 1:04pm

    Advertising what?

    I don't think this as about adverts that tell you where to get p2p software or torrents... this is about ads that appear on the website after people have already found it. Those ads will mostly be for perfectly legal things like (given the nature of the site) iTunes or NetFlix or Tivo.

    Which is just one more amusing little detail. People wanting free movies have already found this website. People wanting to buy legal music and movies online, rent movies by mail, or legally time-shift their favorite TV shows may stumble on this website by accident. Any advertising they see once they arrive can't possibly lead them to a less-legal alternative.

     

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    PooBah, Feb 12th, 2007 @ 1:08pm

    Freedom

    Information should be free!

     

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    Google rocks, Feb 12th, 2007 @ 1:08pm

    Re: Google IS evil

    "This is no different from advertising burglary tools."

    So are you saying that Wal-Mart can no longer advertise knapsacks, flashlights, or face mask toboggans?

    The problem is that Youtube and Google Video are now so popular that Hollywood is having to deal with the same things that the RIAA has been dealing with for a couple of years.

    IMHO P2P networks make the Net worth while. I've saved a ton of money on Video rentals and CD purchases by having more control over what I watch or listen to and when I watch or listen to it.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 12th, 2007 @ 1:44pm

    I don't understand why the RIAA or the MPAA fears losing money. The internet doesn't seem to have hurt the porn industry. Let's face it, 5 minute downloads of 10 minutes clips is perfect for porn.

    I don't want to wait for lengthy downloads or need a longer clip. I'm surprised anyone even buys pornos anymore.

    Blockbuster movies on the other hand. I don't feel like waiting 3 days on a movie to download P2P and have and have Japanese subtitles with shitty quality.

     

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    Rick, Feb 12th, 2007 @ 1:56pm

    In other news

    In other news:

    Gun companies sell things that are used to commit crimes.
    Cigarette companies sell things that are harmful to users.
    Phone companies provide a means for illegal acts to be planned and executed.

    etc......

     

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    Sanguine Dream, Feb 12th, 2007 @ 2:01pm

    Comment #9 makes a good point

    If downloading is equal to lost revenues then how in the devil has the porn industry not only survived but has grown because of the internet?

    If downloading is equal to lost revenues then how in the devil has indie music not only survived but has grown because of the internet?

     

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    Ward, Feb 12th, 2007 @ 2:39pm

    Babysitters

    Google should not be required to babysit its users. This is the same nonsense that came about recently with the legislation to make it illegal to cross the street while wearing an Ipod.

     

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    Overcast, Feb 12th, 2007 @ 4:21pm

    Since when does anyone really care what the obscene rich elites in Hollywood think anyway...

    And some people say Corporations are 'evil'.....

    ROFL

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 12th, 2007 @ 7:16pm

    Re:

    Since when does anyone really care what the obscene rich elites in Hollywood think anyway...
    Since judges with the power to ruin lives care.

     

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    Anonomous Coward, Feb 12th, 2007 @ 7:27pm

    Each of us must make a valiant effort to replace "Piracy" from our vocabulary with "Unauthorized Use".

     

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    Synonymous Howard, Feb 12th, 2007 @ 11:17pm

    Learn the law, kiddies.

    So are you saying that Wal-Mart can no longer advertise knapsacks, flashlights, or face mask toboggans?

    They can advertise each of those things, but not for use as Burglar's tools. They cannot they make a "Burglar's Kit" with a knapsack, flashlight and face mask and sell it for the purpose of burglary. Nor can they advertise lock picking kits or slim jims for sale to the general public. Indeed, these former tools are illegal to possess in many states unless you have a license.

    The point is not the tool. The point is advertising the use of the tool for illegal purposes. You can sell rocks for gardens and have no problem. Try selling rocks for breaking windows and see what promoting an illegal activity nets you.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 13th, 2007 @ 5:43am

    I just use google video to watch young hot girls dance in lingerie. the sometimes dance to copywrited music

     

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    Robert Ruffo, Apr 22nd, 2008 @ 9:22pm

    Normal corporate activity has a right to exist

    Hollywood creates many middle-class jobs, thousands of them.
    Most peopel who are hurt by piracy (and I'd venture those most painfully affected) are not the "Elite", but regular people.

    Like any normal, legal corporate entity, it has a right to make a profit, and to defend thsi profit against theft.

    Even if they were an elite, you cannot have a civilized society if anyone successful, or part of any elite, cannot defend against theft. Maybe if you were smarter or worked harder, you would be part of teh elite too. Countries are not made great only by "poor, regular folk"

    In this instance, Hollywood is not attacking some frail old lady living off her pension, they are attacking one of the wordl's largest corporataions for litterally stealing their money. They have every right to do so.

    If you think all coportaions hsoudl eb bankrupted, and that soem form of communist, or perhaps hippie-commune like society shoudl replace them, then I suggest you visit a communist country, or a hippie commune for that matter.

     

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