Can't Have An Electronic Trigger On An Input Device; Nintendo Sued Over Patent Infringement

from the not-so-much-fun-for-the-whole-family dept

Patent madness strikes again. As families everywhere (at least those who can get their hands on them) are experiencing Wii-induced soreness from the game consoles unique controller device, recognize that one company believes you're infringing on their patent. Jason writes in to let us know that Interlink Electronics has sued Nintendo of the patent they hold for a trigger operated electronic device. The article notes how Nintendo's Wii implementation of a trigger device is quite different than that described in the patent, but no matter, in this age of vague and broad patents it's pretty standard to stretch the definition to sue whoever actually did the innovation the market wanted. It seems pretty unlikely that this patent was what made Nintendo figure out how to design their controller -- but rather in their search for a better product for customers, this was one of many ideas that their engineers and designers came up with. It's hardly a unique concept to think of a trigger as a mechanism on an input device -- and it's hard to see why it deserves patent protection. If multiple parties are all coming up with the same general concept independently, it certainly seems like it shouldn't pass the "obviousness" test that we're supposed to have for patents, and which hopefully, the Supreme Court is about to revise.

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    Patent on the mouse button click..

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    Ajax 4Hire, Dec 8th, 2006 @ 5:12pm

    This sounds like a patent on the mouse button click;
    click the mouse to fire the weapon...

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    hoeppner, Dec 8th, 2006 @ 5:13pm

    sweet, a broad patent case that has no way it can succeed.... go precedent.

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    STJ, Dec 8th, 2006 @ 5:14pm

    Don't alot of controlers have a trigger as an input device, even joysticks.

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    chris, Dec 8th, 2006 @ 5:25pm

    what about the original nintendo gun for duckhunt?

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    Trigger

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    Ron (profile), Dec 8th, 2006 @ 5:29pm

    Occurs to me that the firing mechanism on a modern battleship is really not that different from a game console; both electronic rather than mechanical, hooked to computers that display aiming, target, etc. So, is this f*khead patent owner gonna try suing the US Navy as well? Hey, fighter aircraft are similar too. Get the Air Force and Navy for that as well.

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    Re: Patent on the mouse button click..

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    casual observer, Dec 8th, 2006 @ 5:30pm

    if you look at the images, it looks very similar to the wii's second controller, with the big difference the patent specifies a mouse/roller ball type of control on the top and i'm not sure if the wii's is more like a joystick or a roller.

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    aaron, Dec 8th, 2006 @ 5:37pm

    chris: not to mention various other controllers like N64 and the first Xbox. Let's cross fingers that this is a moot point after the (hopefully forthcoming) SCOTUS ruling.

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    Re: Re: Patent on the mouse button click..

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    bailey, Dec 8th, 2006 @ 6:05pm

    except for a superficial similarity to the wiimote this has nothing in common to nintendos controller, hell it has an infrared device at the end, where nintendo has a camera.

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    Re:

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    whargoul, Dec 8th, 2006 @ 7:52pm

    sweet, a broad patent case that has no way it can succeed....

    Common sense tells me you are correct...therefore it will succeed...

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    Re: Re: Re: Patent on the mouse button click..

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    The Lone Wulf, Dec 8th, 2006 @ 8:01pm

    I cannot confirm this, but if I remember correctly, the Wiimote does in fact use an infra-red detector and/or transmitter to use in gameplay. I am not 100% certain as no one seems to have specs available on the Wiimote. Either way, the lawsuit seems to be more for money than anything else. And I am almost ashamed that it is a DE company considering where I live!!!!! Down with poorly written copywrite laws!

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    Didn't Sky have this for their settop box?

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    Paul OFlaherty, Dec 9th, 2006 @ 3:43am

    If I remember correctly we had a switch exactly like that built into the remote control of the set top box for Sky TV back in the 90's.

    The controller functioned both as a remote control for the set top box and as a games controller for playing really crap 2d games.

    I'm sure without much effort plenty of prior art could be found on this one.

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    the way back machine

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    dwreid, Dec 9th, 2006 @ 8:57am

    Actually, the military computer Whirlwind waaaay back in the 40s had a trigger on the input device. I think that maybe this company is waaay full of poo poo.

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    Re: Re: Re: Re: Patent on the mouse button click..

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    Chronno S. Trigger, Dec 9th, 2006 @ 4:56pm

    I know this is completely off topic but I had to say this.

    Yes the Wiimote uses an IR receiver that detects the two IR signals from the bar above the TV. If the signals go up, down, or even twist relative to the Wiimote is then sent to the Wii over the Blue tooth connection. That's as far as I figured out so far. I believe the nunchuck and the mote both have motion sensors in them since I can do limited things without line of site to the bar.

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    This is hella weird!

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    something like that, Dec 10th, 2006 @ 1:55am

    Yah
    you know that some controlers have input trigger thingys but you know like the nintendo game
    "Duck Hunt"
    Isnt that a game with a input thing?
    And i heard that you can point the wii remote thing at the computer because of the input thing...
    And I've seen hella games for the PC that uses a laser point gun controler

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    Wii Tech

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    Anonymous Coward, Dec 11th, 2006 @ 6:46am

    During my Army days in the mid 80s - SGI showed off a system that they were building with Nintendo. The system used a wireless mouse with a clear antenna sticking out.

    We slipped on a pair of 3D goggles and could play catch by throwing the ball (hold button, make throwing motion, and release button) against walls (like a handball court) and the catch the bouncing ball.

    You could also use the remote to fly or drive through a 3D city by moving the mouse in front of you.

    I had forgotten about the demo until the Wii came out. I suspect that some of the tech may have been used in that old 3D gameboy thing Nintendo put out years ago.

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    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Patent on the mouse button cli

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    Brad, Dec 11th, 2006 @ 12:47pm

    No, the remote DOES NOT HAVE AN IR RECEIVER. It has a small CCD camera with an IR-pass filter on the front.

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