Note To Online Gambling Execs (Again): You Probably Want To Stay Out Of The US For A While

from the tell-your-travel-agent dept

After the CEO of the online gambling company BetOnSports was arrested in the Dallas airport during a stopover on his way to Costa Rica, and the cancellation of a conference in Las Vegas on fears other online gambling execs would get arrested, you'd think it was pretty clear that it's probably a good idea to stay out of the US if you run an online casino. However, the news apparently didn't get through to to the chairman of British gambling company Sportingbet, as he too has been detained by US authorities. Just like previous arrests, this won't do anything to stop Americans from gambling online, and it certainly won't do anything to stop gambling completely, since plenty of offline opportunities to make bets and play casino games still exist. So what is the net effect? Very little, apart from the appearance of a "crackdown" on internet gambling. In any case, just to make it clear to any other people running or working for online gambling companies: if you run or work for an online gambling company, it's probably not a good idea to visit Disney World, the Statue of Liberty, the Space Needle, or anywhere else in the US anytime soon.


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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 7th, 2006 @ 9:09am

    wtf...

    this is absurd

    are we just going to hold them until we can make a law against gambling? then throw away the key?

    how is this legal?

     

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    Smiley, Sep 7th, 2006 @ 9:10am

    More Mindless Babble

    Jesus, what a freaking waste of time. I’m so happy we live in a world where it’s necessary to find methods to waste valuable tax dollars on all sorts of shit, all the while missing the things that really matter. Good thing we have such a mindless administration in place to weather the storm, stay the course and keep us in line. Without it, we might actually be an effective group of individuals. God save the king….erm the Fruit Cakes in power….!!!!

     

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    Joe, Sep 7th, 2006 @ 9:12am

    They're just pissed, because they aren't getting a slice of it.

     

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    MikeR, Sep 7th, 2006 @ 9:18am

    I believe you already pointed out the solution in an earlier post. The on-line companies should band together and offer to pay brib... er, taxes to the US government on all income generated from US IP addresses. Add the kicker of convincing the US government to use the money to "protect the kids" on the Internet and you have a real winner

     

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    Betting they will never win, Sep 7th, 2006 @ 9:25am

    Who is worried about online gambling?

    I belive it is the owners of the casino's, not the general public. Notice to any official reading this, quit wasting your time and our tax money fighting this issue. It is like prohibition, you will never stop it and there are many more important things out there. Why don't you do more to stop the illegal immigration and drug traffic from Mexico. It may be a losing battle, but at least it is worth fighting! Trying to stop people from spending their money on entertainment they choose is a waste of time. Heck, if you allow the servers in the US, you can even tax the profits. Now, it all goes off shore. Common sense people!

     

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      Anonymous Coward, Sep 7th, 2006 @ 6:36pm

      Re: Who is worried about online gambling?

      It is pretty funny that you mention fighting against drugs and not stopping people from spending their money on entertainment they choose in the same paragraph.

       

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    Lay Person, Sep 7th, 2006 @ 9:30am

    It's all a bunch of crap...

    I'll be more than happy to take over BetOnSports or Sportingbet. I hear gambling is a lucrative business and I'll take my chances off shore.

    Only reason the governement is pissed is because the government cornered itself and now can't get any of the action.

    Typical government intrusion. Let's make gambling illegal... except in some locations. If someone finds a way around this ruling we'll arrest them for no reason and then hope the problem goes away.

    If it doesn't go away we'll make the problem something else, we'll convince the media that this is the actual problem, then we'll procede to do as we wish. Even arresting people that aren't breaking the law.

     

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    Nick, Sep 7th, 2006 @ 9:33am

    Doublethink

    Free trade my ass.

     

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    me, Sep 7th, 2006 @ 9:37am

    good!

    these spamming deserve every stinking thing they have coming! Use them for medical experiments to!

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Sep 7th, 2006 @ 9:42am

    humm....complain about losing money....

    what to do..what to do...

    I know spend even MORE money trying to catch these crooks...

     

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    Ryan, Sep 7th, 2006 @ 9:48am

    spammers?

    I want to make it clear that it's not the actual online betting places that spam... it's the people who sign up under their affiliate programs.

    poker sites at least, can't afford to ditch affiliates though... what with the rake, without new players the site would eventually get all the money.

     

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    Alan, Sep 7th, 2006 @ 9:52am

    Pick a fight you can win

    I think the U$ Government has a better chance of stopping the tides than preventing people from gambling with their own after-tax money. Why not concentrate on something useful like defeating AL Queda (or AIDS)?

     

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    whargoul, Sep 7th, 2006 @ 10:04am

    What's curious to me is

    They know exactly when the exec of an online gambling company is about to land, but they can't get their shit straight with imigration and terrorists.

    Sounds to me like Homeland Security needs to talk to the folks who are finding and arresting these execs.

     

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    Rabid Wolverine, Sep 7th, 2006 @ 10:21am

    Online craps...

    "The homeland is threatened by enemies from within and without. There is chaos in the streets. We need law and order."

    Adolph Hitler - 1933

     

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    wiser, Sep 7th, 2006 @ 11:12am

    Unregulated = Corrupt

    These offshore companies deserve all that gets thrown at them from the US. These establishments are completely unregulated and more than likely have corrupt methods to keep the money coming in. There are plenty of Americans getting their bank accounts cleaned out. and it probably has nothing to do with bad luck.

    Poker sites have no way to protect you from playes in collusion and could care less as long as they get their take. They have been laughing all the way to the bank. Fortunately a couple of them are stuck with no outlet to spent their ill-got gains.

     

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      Dumber, Sep 7th, 2006 @ 11:28am

      Re: Unregulated = Corrupt

      LOL Spoken like someone who sucks at poker! HA HA HA! So, because they are "unregulated" YOU think they are "most likely" corrupt... Idiot.

       

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        Wiser, Sep 7th, 2006 @ 11:36am

        Re: Re: Unregulated = Corrupt

        More than likely should be enough for any sane American to keep their money in the US. If you want to play, play in a brick and morter, regulated USA establishment. Also you have no way of knowing where the funds are ending up, and that is a possible threat to all of our safety. Oh, and you are the idiot. LOL HAHAHA!

         

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      Lay Person, Sep 7th, 2006 @ 12:38pm

      Re: Unregulated = Corrupt

      Who cares?

      I have a website that coerces you to give me your money.

      It doesn't matter whether or not you get what is promised.
      This happens all day long legally here on U.S. soil. Advertisers promise hot chicks with a six pack of Miller. Do you really get the hot chicks with the beer?

      It comes down to buyer beware! There are all kinds of scams out there and the law and government WILL NOT PROTECT YOU! You can only protect yourself...you make your money, you spend it. If you need to be told to not gamble your money away, is anyone but you to blame?

      As far as unregulated = corrupt, we have things regulated to the teeth and guess what? Yup, we're still corrupt to the teeth. i.e. Enron, U.S. Patent Office, ICAAN...to name a few.

       

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        wiser, Sep 7th, 2006 @ 3:31pm

        Re: Re: Unregulated = Corrupt

        "I have a website that coerces you to give me your money.

        It doesn't matter whether or not you get what is promised."

        I think there are plenty of Americans who are wise enough not to be coersed into a scam, on the other hand there are plenty who are not. The ones who are not are getting bailed out by chargebacks, family bailouts and government assistance to name but a few.

        To play at an unregulated gambling establishment is a gamble on the honesty of the online casino, and unfortunately that overshadows any skill or luck these players actually have.

        Playing at a government regulated casino at least fixes the honesty gamble. And if you lose its your own fault.

        As far as the "it doesn't matter if you get what is promised" argument, it's still a scam. Scammers suck!

         

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      ??, Jan 26th, 2007 @ 10:15am

      Re: Unregulated = Corrupt

      Everything that you have said has been based on possibly, and probably. What the hell happened to free trade? If someone chooses to bet online as a means to try to make money, than so be it. We don't need the government intervening with every aspect of our lives. Not to mention that these CEO's will be facing more jail time than some child rapists, it is ridiculous, the state is clearly just using this as a way to find out how they can get a cut.

       

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    Michael Vilain, Sep 7th, 2006 @ 7:39pm

    Re: This should be intersting

    The first CEO they arrested was an American citizen doing business on foreign soil (Costa Rica). I can see the Justice Department going after him.

    This second guy was British, doing business outside the US. The Justice Department might make a case for him but I'm hoping his embassy is involved as well as the Home Office and US State Department. Otherwise, the US might be creating a serious problem of quid pro quo around the world.

    I can imagine activities by various US corporations carried out on US soil that are illegal in other countries. What's to stop the country where that activity is illegal from detaining and prosecuting the CEO of said company if they should foolishly come to that country for a conference?

    That Russian cryptographer who cracked the PDF reader was finally let go after being arrested for copyright infringement for their web site (written in English but hosted on Russian servers).

    How is this different? Does the Justice Department _really_ want to go there? Could get really sticky, especially if the US doesn't have juristiction over foreign-based servers. Pirate Bay was back days after that very weird and questionable police raid, thumbing their nose at the RIAA and MPAA.

     

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