Metallica Finally Realizes That Some People Like To Get Music Online

from the it's-about-time dept

For all the success of iTunes, there have been a few bands that have famously stayed out of the online music revolution -- with the Beatles being the most famous (even if they've admitted that might change soon). One that hasn't been quite so surprising was Metallica -- the poster child for bands opposed to any sort of forward progress in music distribution. The band, of course, was the first high profile music act to protest Napster, with statements that suggested the band didn't really understand what was happening. While the band did eventually experiment with some online music, it was fairly limited and the band couldn't even explain it clearly. When iTunes first came out, the band was vehemently against the service, because it would let people buy individual songs, rather than forcing them to get an entire album. If there's one thing that's been consistent through all of this, it's that the band has always wanted to define for its fans how they must enjoy the music, rather than letting the fans tell them how they want to enjoy the music. That's why it seems a bit lame for the band to position the fact that they finally are putting their songs on iTunes as something they're doing "for the fans." They make it out as if their fans are just now discovering iTunes, and then even try to blame their record label for the delay. That might be easier to buy if it weren't for their anti-fan, anti-digital position for all these years.


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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 7:39pm

    um, Metallica was one of the first bands to figure out that people like to get their music online...thats why they fought Napster.

     

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    Devils Advocate, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 8:02pm

    metallica is a hypocritical joke of a band always using some excuse to be in the news.Besides, i remember back when they said they would never do a video, then wham "one" came out.Then they decided to under "produce" their bob rock "sterile" production in a garage, oh so st. anger of them.They made a movie with their therapist, jeez lets follow the "reality" theme too while were at it?They are just capitalist junkies looking for quick fixes.

     

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    james s hartshorn, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 8:06pm

    ha ha

    HA Ha

     

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    Metallicatard, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 8:23pm

    Losers

    The way they treated their fans was aweful...I mean who in their right mind SUES fans????

    WAKE UP YOU COKE-NOSED HYPOCRITES!

    FANS PAY BIG BUCKS TO GO TO CONCERTS!!

    I will never buy another Metalica album. Ever.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 8:29pm

    Re: Losers

    /agree

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 8:29pm

    Maybe if Master of Puppets was JUST coming out I'd give a shit.

    Everyone has their pirated Metallica already.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 8:29pm

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    I hope you were joking...lol

     

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    uninterested bystander, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 8:34pm

    Metallicatard...LOL, I love it!!!

     

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    arrg, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 8:39pm

    Don't like them anymore

    They used to be one of my top bands. After the Napster statements they showed their true colors (greed, money) so I can't stand them. Their music makes me ill now...

     

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    Bob's Your Uncle, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 8:50pm

    Metalli-who?

     

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    Screech, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 8:51pm

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    Fuckin' A!

     

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    VPR, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 8:54pm

    They used to be one of my top bands. After the Napster statements they showed their true colors (greed, money) so I can't stand them.

    I second this, but I still love their music...I just won't pay for it anymore.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 8:56pm

    Metallicatard:
    They didn't sue their fans, they sued napster.

     

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    tom gulch, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 9:08pm

    metallika

    since only deaf people enjoyed this 'bands' music, their
    impact on anything was greatly exagerated. The drummer was, is,and will be, the same knee-pad wearing suck ass for corporate
    music that he always was.

     

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    rijit (profile), Jul 25th, 2006 @ 9:14pm

    Burn Metallica Burn!

    Heh, I don't buy their albums anymore either, but I did get them from somewhere =P I made a point of finding their music online for download, just as a protest, anti-Metallica thing. My friends and I set the CDs we downloaded and burned on fire and watched them turn into plastic puddles. Kind of dumb, I know but it was around the time of the lawsuit. I have only recently even thought of this group, since their music is being played on the local classic rock radio station.....

     

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    Metallica's Lawyer, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 9:27pm

    Re: Burn Metallica Burn!

    Dear Techdirt Readers,

    Our attention has been directed to this site upon receiving reports that Techdirt Readers have been downloading text-based copies of the Metallica name without permission.

    This is your notice to quit using the Metallica name without permission. You do not have our permission. We don't recall you even asking for permission. And we're sure as fudge never gonna give it to you. So quit referring to Metallica online lest we sue your little wallets into bloody little pulps.

    Every time someone downloads the name Metallica, we're gonna sue them for all the money in the world times a jillion. That will teach you.

    Sincerely,

    Dumpud Blitzturd
    General Counsel
    Metallica LLC

    PS -- Metallica means "Herpes" in Swedish.

     

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    Luci, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 9:27pm

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    You're right, they didn't sue their fans. They just used the DMCA to get 300,000 people who /might/ have downloaded their music cut off from the Napster service. No proof of wrong-doing, just allegation.

     

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    Why, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 9:39pm

    this

    I just bought 4 M- albums, and they are still my fav. band.

     

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    Why, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 9:40pm

    this

    I just bought 4 M- albums, and they are still my fav. band.

     

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    FrickTard, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 9:45pm

    this by Why

    I push the button twice because I'm a M-RON!

     

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    FrickTard, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 9:46pm

    this by Why

    I push the button twice because I'm a M-RON!

     

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    SomeName, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 9:54pm

    Metallica

    Metallica doesnt give a shit about retards like you! "I burnt all my cds." wake the fuck up! if you truely love a certain type of music you dont give a damn about politics! and this is in America only! fucking corprates... In others countries people dont give a fuck about Napster or whoever! and media dont make a fuckin big deal about it! People find other ways do get what they want. But America, fucking brainwash people with its media! I love Metallica to death! true fans never let a band down with a bad album. They still sold out their summer festival tours in europe and last year in America! maybe the word "sold out" means different to you... may be it means making a music video! but to me means at least that 60-100 thousand people in those concerts give you anti-mets a HUGE FUCK YOU.

     

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    bendover, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 9:56pm

    I just bootlegged all of thier albums

     

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    dispotic1, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 9:59pm

    mettalicattatonic

    Cliff Burton is rolling in his grave.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 10:04pm

    i am so glad that i have never bought anything of theirs.

    lars ulrich is the most pretentious ass in the music business.

     

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    dispotic1, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 10:07pm

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    I concur.I hate that motherfucker to no end.

     

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    dispotic1, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 10:10pm

    mettalicattatonic

    I am so dissapointed.Total fucking corporate asseaters.

     

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    Donald Duck, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 10:27pm

    Metallica hard working from clubs to frame band

    Metallica did clubs, bars, starved, worked their tales off. In a world of music full of pit falls and 15 minutes of fame. With crooked managers, agents, record labels. Some bands have found them selves just burnt out broke x band members and now forgotten.

    Unless you make sure that your music is copy right protected, and when sold, they get a cut. Not screwed out of their fair share, they are making a profit, it's America. In the 80's CD Roms was a huge step from tapes, and illegal CD Roms of Metallica and other bands music was being made in China and across America and Europe in the millions and sold as "Real" Metallica CD Roms. Hundreds of these thieves was making millions and getting busted a lot of that money was never given to Metallica and WB.

    So the band who had in the 500 Greatest Heavy Metal Albums of All-Time lists the first four albums at numbers 1,4, 18 and 19 should take stands when it comes to people stealing their music!

    They came out with their music and just kept making some of the best metal ever produced! They was against Napster, the only reason was just so obvious.

    It was a system of copying their music with out them getting any thing for making it. The kid that set up Napster could be a millionaire in the hundreds of millions with ad's and music from every group out there on his web page. I understand the music bands point of view. In fact you can compare Google.com library online idea they wanted to put books on the Internet and how some of those people, authors or publishers have filed lawsuits against it. I personally wanted to read some old as dirt books but I don't want spend hundreds of dollars on them. Just like I would have loved to download some of Metallica songs but I realize in this world nothing is free! I never did. I purchased my music from FYE and Wal-Mart.

    iTunes, I would suspect that iTunes wanted way to much money compare to the artist that wrote, scored and produced the music and sang it over and over in the studio to make it perfect. The ones that toured the globe three times straight in a row, and still tour today.

    So if you pay iTunes 99 cents what was the cut for the band at first? 1 cent per song? Just think if 10 million people downloaded one song. That is just pocket change for the 98 cents that iTunes was going to make off of Metallica's Music. So they wasn't being evil right wingers they was being smart music bands of the modern era, that realize how much money they was really worth and how businesses try to SCREW them out of Millions of dollars. We are not talking about your monthly rent fellows, we are talking about something worth in Billions in total. I already have their music, I don't need to purchase it again, and I try to avoid buying it twice but did with S&M, but S&M was worth it by far some of the best remixed of their greatest hits

     

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    throbi, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 10:35pm

    from masters to puppets?

    I've waited so hard for Load to come out, I've bought the album and I was totally dissapointed... It simply wasn't Metallica. ReLoad was even worse... It looked like the band was doing the bonjovi-shittrick, too. But lars ulrich topped everything by driving the band agains Napster.

    Metallica is just a puppet and the master's name is $$$$!

     

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    nixr, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 10:43pm

    I remember 1983

    Before Metallica was signed to Megaforce records back in the early 80's they used to encourage their fans to make five copies of their demo, give it to five people, have those five people make five copies, etc. They managed to generate enough buzz by using that strategy to land them a deal with Megaforce Records in 1983. I realize that this is a slightly different issue but I thought I's point out the irony.

     

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    original speed metal fan, Jul 25th, 2006 @ 11:46pm

    metallica has always sucked

    Metallica always sucked.

    Your arguments defending metallica's suckiness are flawed:
    a) Metallica fills stadiums and still have a lot of fans.
    So do the Village People.
    b)Metallica has 4 albums on the "top 500 metal albums of all time list"
    That's shit. There aren't 500 good metal albums.
    c)Metallica worked hard to get where they are.
    There are better, harder working metal bands than metallica that don't have their cash. Cannibal Corpse would be an easy pick. Metallica got big because they were easily packaged as a corporate product. Have a good McMetal day.
    d)James Hetfield can sing.
    He has a three-note vocal range, it's pitiful.

    I don't care if the rest of metallica die in a bus. The actual effect on the music world from their demise would be positive. Some other band could move up one notch on the possibility-of-success ladder. They'd sell out, too, but at least I wouldn't have to suffer the hypocritical posing of some spoiled coke addict who thinks he can be corporate and relevant. That's rule #1 of rock or any genre.
    metallica is the puffy combs of rock, ask Slayer.

     

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    rijit (profile), Jul 26th, 2006 @ 12:07am

    RE: Metallica by SomeName

    I burned the burned copies craptard, I still have my original Metallica all the way up through the Black album, their music is shit after that. Load and Re-Load, they should have called it kneel and bob cause it blew. St. Anger tried to resurrect what they once had but it sounds like they are trying way to hard to be metal. I am aaiting ther next album, I hope it is not as dissapointing as the past few. As for all the rest, Mr. SomeName, I could care less. Opinions are like buttholes, everyone has at least one and yours seems to be the stinkiest in the bunch.

     

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    Who Gives a Shite?, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 12:10am

    Metallicunts...

    Silly cunts...

     

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    *Shrug*, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 12:41am

    well...

    Their early tunes rocked, the latest ones suck. If they were all to die on a bush crash nobody would care since they won’t produce anything worthwhile ever again.

    With all the time they wasted fighting napster, they should have been working to find a better way to get music to their fans instead of alienating them.

    In short, its good music, but the way they acted I'm glad I never paid for any of it.

     

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    m, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 1:26am

    Metallica is the most lame band ever. They became the most pirated band because of their stupid protests against napster. metallica = narcs

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 1:30am

    irony

    I feel the need to point out the the name "Metallica" was not the original name for the band, but was in fact stolen from another band. So I couldn't care less what they argue. They stole their name, why cant people copy their music?

     

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    Pete Moss, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 2:03am

    Lars Ulrich has done for music what Jim Baker did

    How self-absorbed can 1 little twat be?? It's obvious he's just bitter because he never grew tall enough to ride the good rides at six flags! Didn't he ever realize that the dorks downloading their crap were the same burger flippers with metallica tattooed on their backs, wearing the T-shirts they bought at the concets, putting their stickers on their camaros and basically supporting that fucking band?? I doesn't matter how 'good' they once were, Metallica has ZERO integrity. Too bad that Hetfield is such a pussy! If he had any balls he would have snuffed Lars in the crash that killed Cliff. The death of Cliff was a profound loss, the death of Lars would have been a forgotten non-event.

     

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    PiTRiFF, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 3:35am

    WTF

    Everytime you download Metallica God Kills a Kitten

     

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    Michael G., Jul 26th, 2006 @ 4:00am

    Has beens...

    ...suddenly giving up on professional convictions is first sign of a has-been artist trying to make more money..."for the fans" my ass.

    Money money money money....

     

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    Close but...., Jul 26th, 2006 @ 4:19am

    Re: irony

    Lars stole the name from a friend starting a magazine and convinced him to use another name. Stolen but not from another band

    Anyways, if you like it buy it and if you don't like it don't buy it. Paraphrased from my new book, A Dummies Guide to Buying Music.

     

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    brian, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 5:58am

    they ROCK

    I could care a bit less where they decide to put their music. They always have rocked and always will.

    Once it effect their musical abilities then I might stop buying their albums...but they still KICK BUTT in that department.

    I cannot fault a business, band, or any other entity for trying to figure out whats up and whats down in this "digital revolution" It will all settle in about 5 - 10 years...until then....JUSTICE FOR ALL! WOOOOO

     

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    Well dat some shit, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 6:00am

    Re: Metallica still sucks a dick

    Metallica by SomeName on Jul 25th, 2006 @ 9:54pm

    Metallica doesnt give a shit about retards like you! "I burnt all my cds." wake the fuck up! if you truely love a certain type of music you dont give a damn about politics! and this is in America only! fucking corprates... In others countries people dont give a fuck about Napster or whoever! and media dont make a fuckin big deal about it! People find other ways do get what they want. But America, fucking brainwash people with its media! I love Metallica to death! true fans never let a band down with a bad album. They still sold out their summer festival tours in europe and last year in America! maybe the word "sold out" means different to you... may be it means making a music video! but to me means at least that 60-100 thousand people in those concerts give you anti-mets a HUGE FUCK YOU.

    Sold out? Damn amazing what having a band worth a shit to open for you can do.

    and dont give me that oh metallica is the hardest band ever they rock so hard bullshit. for a "METAL" band they suck they should be named semihardrockwithviagriaica. Should a metal band be rebellous yes. Should they be corporate french kiss asses hell no. I mean were the fuck was Metallica when Dee Snider (Twisted Sister) picked up his banner and fought against censorship. Were were they when bands like 2Live Crew were banned from being sold period. I remeber when albums were being pulled from the shelves. Oh thats right Metallica shitty lame music is not heavy enough to have been a concern, and as long as they continued to line their own coffers, They dont give a fuck about the real things. They dont care about Music for music sake, freedom of creativity, or fans. Unless your gay enough to really belive they rock and dont care about the greedy corperate dingleberry slurping way that they have approached all music distribution. Stop and think why would any band worth a fuck want to only be able to buy music that is sold in bundles and can only be played on outdated technology? Because, one they are too lazy to put out 12 songs that are all worth buying. Two they are too stupid to understand the pricing method and how they get paid royalties. Three they feel if you can play it on more than one media you should purchase a copy for each media format.


    on a final note most of the Metallica Fellatiors seem to think telling us that Metallica doesnt care what we think or to quote "Metallica doesnt give a shit about retards like you!" Good because I do have money. I can and do purchase albums. Which is how they make the most of thier money. But I'll be damned if I will buy any Metallica album after thier actions. I will however plan to use my internet and download a copy of the new album just to give to all of the dumbass Metallica fans that still exsist in this area. An important thought from long ago. Never bite the hand that feeds you.

     

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    cats sux, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 6:03am

    Re: WTF

    Oh HELL YES!! I'm glad I hate cats as much as Metallica!

     

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    learn the royalties scheme, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 6:10am

    Re: Metallica hard working from clubs to frame ban

    So if you pay iTunes 99 cents what was the cut for the band at first? 1 cent per song? Just think if 10 million people downloaded one song. That is just pocket change for the 98 cents that iTunes was going to make off of Metallica's Music. So they wasn't being evil right wingers they was being smart music bands of the modern era, that realize how much money they was really worth and how businesses try to SCREW them out of Millions of dollars. We are not talking about your monthly rent fellows, we are talking about something worth in Billions in total. I already have their music, I don't need to purchase it again, and I try to avoid buying it twice but did with S&M, but S&M was worth it by far some of the best remixed of their greatest hits

    hmm let me see we can earn 1 cent per song instead of 1 cent per album? btw Itune is also on earning a penny the remainder is eaten by the RIAA to make sure the entire company behind the label get a piece of the Artist' great work as well.

     

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    x-metallica fan, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 6:24am

    Re: I remember 1983

    Before Metallica was signed to Megaforce records back in the early 80's they used to encourage their fans to make five copies of their demo, give it to five people, have those five people make five copies, etc. They managed to generate enough buzz by using that strategy to land them a deal with Megaforce Records in 1983. I realize that this is a slightly different issue but I thought I's point out the irony.

    yeah, i remeber that.
    i was hoping someone would point that out. metallica turned around and bit the hand that fed them.

     

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    Ben, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 6:29am

    Re: Losers

    you got it

    /agree

     

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    Ben, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 6:51am

    Re: they ROCK

     

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    Kooot, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 7:20am

    I was hoping someone would bring up the fact that they encouraged their fans to pirate their music.
    But now that they are rolling in the dough they think its ok to be hypocrites and condemn the people pirating their music.
    Hello pirating your music is what made you big.

     

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    soso, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 7:22am

    Maybe Metallica fans are just now discovering iTunes. It wouldn't be surprising. If someone is still a fan of Metallica after all the shit they've done, then I wouldn't doubt they're behind in a lot of ways.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 7:30am

    Re: Re: I remember 1983

    Before Metallica was signed to Megaforce records back in the early 80's they used to encourage their fans to make five copies of their demo, give it to five people, have those five people make five copies, etc. They managed to generate enough buzz by using that strategy to land them a deal with Megaforce Records in 1983. I realize that this is a slightly different issue but I thought I's point out the irony.

    yeah, i remeber that. i was hoping someone would point that out. metallica turned around and bit the hand that fed them.

    I can't really say much good about the band after the Black album (which is when they seem to have turned into the corporate monkeys, IMO). I can say that I have not downloaded any of thier music and I have not bought much either (S & M is the exception). In fact, I either get copies directly from friends or I do without. My life has not suffered one iota and there is zero chance that it can be traced. Practically, the only band that I have bought albums for in the past seven years is Type O Negative (and I've bought every album they released at least once). Has going without affected my life? Not much since my wife doesn't like the same music I do. My point is GET OVER IT. Lars is an a-hole and the band is too popular for a few p***ed off geeks to really put a dent in their $$$, so just let it go and ignore any news about them (exactly what they don't want).

     

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    some guy, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 7:43am

    I remember when these F**ktards were nobodies on the hollywood strip and encouraged spreading their tunes via tape swapping. I never have and never will support those hypocrites.

     

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    Mau, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 7:46am

    Napster Bad!!

    Remember the infamous cartoon video?

    Now they caved in!!!

    Then, they say:

    “Over the last year or so, we have seen an ever-growing number of Metallica fans using online sites like iTunes to get their music. So…we are now offering fans the opportunity to obtain our songs individually.”

    For the fans?? Yeah, right!!!

     

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    TDavid, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 7:51am

    What about livemetallica.com, Mike?

    Mike - you might want to update the misstatement in your post: "weren't for their anti-fan, anti-digital position for all these years."

    Actually, Metallica has been selling mp3 (no DRM) of some of their concerts via livemetallica.com since early 2004. Seems like a big oversight not at least mentioning that fact.

    They have almost 100 tracks available there now. Most of which (all?) cannot be bought on CD.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 8:17am

    Metallica made great music. Stop being bitches.

     

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    David, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 8:37am

    Re: Metallica hard working from clubs to frame ban

    Actually, the reason that iTunes sucks for artists is because their label fucks them over. Steve Jobs refuses to sell songs for more than $0.99. That's more than I'll pay, but not more than what most people will pay (it's still $14 or more for a damn album... an album should cost at most $10. Ever. But that's an aside). Either way, the labels keep pressuring iTunes to raise the price, and they keep taking all but a few pennies from every track, which Apple keeps (they don't provide the service for free, you know).
    Screw them all. Screw the labels that want to bend customers over a barrel, and screw bands like Metallic that suck the label execs off while they're doing it.

     

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    kit, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 9:56am

    here's a dollar will you sing for me?

    anyone remember that quote during the napster procedings? And is it me or does anyone seem to think calling metallica a metal band is um stupid, up until "And Justice for All" they were considered a Thrash band not Metal, they only became a Metal band with Black. I was 19 or so when it came out ran out and bought it first day.... Listened to it once. I truley knew it was over with that album when someone who liked poison said it was great. It was the last album of theirs I ever bought. I will never purchase another regardless of how good it is. + Metal is pretty much dead to me. P.S. I still have that crappy blck CD and it collects dust along with all the other crap CD'S I ever bought.

     

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    Dumpud Blitzturd, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 11:28am

    Re:

    Excellent use of the PAST tense, dimbulb.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 11:39am

    See post #53.

    Perhaps this is more of the media making a big deal out of something they didn't research first? I mean that would require work or something...

     

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    SomeName, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 1:08pm

    Re: Metallica still sucks a dick

    and dont give me that oh metallica is the hardest band ever they rock so hard bullshit. for a "METAL" band they suck they should be named semihardrockwithviagriaica. Should a metal band be rebellous yes. Should they be corporate french kiss asses hell no.


    first of all Metallica is not like Slayer to sing the same stuff (anti crist, war, religion) over and over and over again. and you are hearing it from a Slayer fan! You said Metallica is not metal?!! hah! Tell me what is Kill'em All, Ride the lightning, And Justice for all and MASTER OF PUPPETS??! Who doesnt believe that These albums took trash metal to another level! Songs that were being influenced by all the metal bands around the world. Pantera, Dream Theatre, Opeth to name a few big one. Fuckin Dimebag played Wiplash in his concerts! Yeah You dont see that! I really like to see what you anti-metallica people listen to!

    But I'll be damned if I will buy any Metallica album after thier actions


    and you did not get my point!
    THE WHOLE THING IS America is a capitalist country that all he thinks is getting publicize. PRs are essential in America's life style. If a lawsuit happens (Metallica vs. Napster) all the news channels and all the newspapers are gonna tell the story. that is how the news covrage should work right? Not in America. In US we go farther! we bash the motherfuckers! we create asshole out of ordinary people! we create hatred toward them! so that a teen who loved the music before and would die to see his favorite band is gonna turn against them! how power full this brainwashing process is!
    Around the world, in Asia in Africa even in some part of Europe where PRs Dont mean shit and Napster is a name of a Bubble Gum! and news corps have more important stuff to do! People love these guys for the music they play and for the influence they put in their minds.

    Just think about you never heard a news about napster, and when you did it was years later. You still have your albums (whether bootleg or original) and you still download music. nothing changed! would you look at metallica in a different way! My anwer would be no!

    Yes I believe they changed! I believe after the Black album they changed their style! But is that a reason for me to not like them? People change and thats normal! eveyone has their ups and downs! how you react to it is more important!

     

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    Lay Person, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 3:07pm

    Re: Metallica

    Metallica sucks!

    I used to think they were the best band at some point.

    Then they sold out. Yeah, sold out menas they've abandoned you...the fan, idiot!

    They should have broke up along time ago.

    I hate to say it...They jumped the shark!

     

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    Jimmie-Deebo, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 3:15pm

    I still download their albums when I see them just to say I didn't buy them.
    Screw em all.

     

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    Juan, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 4:47pm

    Metallica vs Downloading music

    What a bunch of dickheads! If Metallica of 1986 ran into Metallica 2006, '86 would kick their asses!!!

     

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    Bars Uldick, Jul 26th, 2006 @ 8:34pm

    I have a big head

    Ever taken a good long, hard look at James Newstead's facial expressions on Rock Star Supernova? You can tell he's thinking to himself "What the f*ck am I doing on stage with Tommy Lee and some guy who wasn't even a real member of Guns of Roses listening to a bunch of half-ass American Idol wannabes? How did I end up here? Where did my career go wrong? Why didn't I commit suicide this morning?..." You can tell the man is experiencing some deep, serious mental anguish right about now, but my point is this - he'd rather be up there making a total ass out of himself two nights a week on CBS rather than playing bass for Metallica. See what I'm saying? Sure.

     

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    Jesus Quintana, Jul 27th, 2006 @ 6:14am

    Re: metallica has always sucked

    You're not a very bright person, are you?

     

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    Whatwoodjesusquintantado?, Jul 29th, 2006 @ 10:47am

    No, I totally get what the man is saying!

    Think of it this way, Jesus... Lars is making a big stink about people stealing his music on Napster, right? One person buys the song and posts it on Napster then other people can download it for free - so Metallica only gets paid by ONE person while MULTIPLE people get to hear the song. Are you with me so far? Seems like Lars has good reason to be upset. Except I read a story once where Lars said when Metallica was first starting out they were so poor they'd go into the Burger King and buy a salad and share it amongst the four members of the band because that was all they could afford. You see what I'm saying? They only bought ONE salad, yet while they were eating the salad they were taking up FOUR seats in the restaurant. Understand? They were actually STEALING those 3 extra perfectly good seats and those 3 extra forks that could be used by PAYING customers! Big picture, baby - it's all about the big picture. Lars is just as guilty as those folks downloading his tunes and he needs to just keep his mouth shut unless he's using it to steal salad from BK.

    PS: JMHO.

     

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    Stephen, Aug 1st, 2006 @ 4:47am

    Re: metallica has always sucked

    Your probably one of them wannabe guitarist thats just mad because your not good enough to play their riffs and solos and shit. Cannibal Corpse sucks balls thats why they got nowhere, James actually know how to sing, Notice thats how the get millions per show dumbass

     

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    Creeply, Aug 1st, 2006 @ 10:24am

    Re: No, I totally get what the man is saying!

    Your Burger King story is not the same at all. Buying one salad and sharing it is like buying one song and having four people listen to it on your stereo. There nothing wrong with that. Howerver if you bought one salad and then somehow could copy it to make three other exact same salads for free, that would be different. Thats more like what goes on with Free music downloads. I'm not pissed at Mettalica because they don't want to give their work away for free. WOULD YOU? Last time I checked this was a capitalist country. I am pissed at Mettalica because they would not even let people pay to download them online. STUPID. Welcome to the modern world. Anyway you can still get all there songs downloaded for free. If you know where. LOL

     

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    What about the forks, Creeply?, Aug 2nd, 2006 @ 4:08pm

    No - the man is right about BK

    You think those forks are free? It costs money to make them and BK has to pay the manufacturer. Sure they're easy to manufacture, but how hard is it to make a copy of a song? It actually requires LESS materials to make a dupe of the song than it does to make those 3 extra forks Lars and the Metalliduds were stealing.

     

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    Creeply, Aug 3rd, 2006 @ 1:22pm

    Re: No - the man is right about BK

    No one is saying it takes long to make a copy of a song. Metallica does not just walk into a studio and come up with a new Album and a perfect recording of it in 3 minutes. It takes years writing and practis to make and album or a song that is worth listening to. You think they made RIDE THE LIGHTNING in their spare time? This is their lifes work. Why should they just give it to you for free?
    Don't get me wrong. If I can download their music and get away with it then I do it. However I don't blame them for trying to prevent their work from being stolen. Why do some people always feel they deserve something for nothing???

     

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    Creeply, Aug 3rd, 2006 @ 1:22pm

    Re: No - the man is right about BK

    No one is saying it takes long to make a copy of a song. Metallica does not just walk into a studio and come up with a new Album and a perfect recording of it in 3 minutes. It takes years writing and practis to make and album or a song that is worth listening to. You think they made RIDE THE LIGHTNING in their spare time? This is their lifes work. Why should they just give it to you for free?
    Don't get me wrong. If I can download their music and get away with it then I do it. However I don't blame them for trying to prevent their work from being stolen. Why do some people always feel they deserve something for nothing???

     

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    brian, Aug 3rd, 2006 @ 4:42pm

    this is dumb

    most of u ppl r aganst metallica because of wat the did... well u no wat i dont blame them. they did wat they need to do.. dont put it against them for wanting money... y do u think slipknot stop making songs? cuz they were n ot getting money.... in the music bussiness its all about ur music and wat u sell it for..... not i dont no about u but i like money and i dont get alot of it but i like making music for the hell of it

    metallica was and will be the best band that has ever lived.... and if u dont believe that then u can go screw

     

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    Brian, Aug 10th, 2006 @ 10:58pm

    Metallica

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    Demon_hunter621, Aug 10th, 2006 @ 10:59pm

    MEtallia

    The dudes right they fuking rok but ST. anger isnt has great though.....

     

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    ALL OF YOU, Sep 24th, 2006 @ 12:05am

    SHUT THE HELL UP ALL OF YOU KNOW WHAT IM SAYING IS

    Metallicas not the same as they used to be. But neither is any band 10 years later. Music changes. Times change. Style change. And for the lot of you.. nothing changes you sit on your fat ass's eating chips and pretending to know a thing about music while you sit on these fourums making posts and comments to your wannabe interent cyber girlfriends about how much crapper every band is (especially metallica) compared to any music you ever, have, wished you did and will make. THAT IS WHY EVERYONE HERE THAT HATES METALLICA ^^^ SUCK BALLSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSS

     

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    florent, Aug 31st, 2007 @ 7:09am

    mashkull

    hej hell

     

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    Mike, Mar 7th, 2008 @ 6:05pm

    Re: Re: metallica has always sucked

    so thats really dumb, that you think they either make millions or fill a million people at their shows all at once. Both of which didn't even happen at live earth. so you're ignorant, for starters.

    Secondly, y'know who else sells a lot of tickets? Fifty Cent. and Shakira. And Jewel. and Anyone played on the radio. Metallica is middle schooler music, you practically have to steal back your copy of master of puppets from your little sisters collection right between a* teens and maroon five, you can't handle Cannibal Corpse because your mom makes you turn it off when you blast it through your pokemon boombox. Metallica is a dumb hick band, so get over it. They can't really play that well, Lars Ulrich is a douche, they're just the sad remnants of some long forgotten era when hair metal was badass. Real musicians keep their shirts on. Crack a Tera Melos CD and then tell me "Woah, that solo from battery is some tricky shit!"

    Metallica = Hacks.

     

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    Timothy Cook, Sep 8th, 2008 @ 4:13pm

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    I hope you are right when it comes to accusing METALLICA with statements that could be nothing but lies because you will be held accountable one day for saying these things just like the rest of us.

     

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    anonymous guy 210, Oct 2nd, 2008 @ 8:49am

    Re: Re: Burn Metallica Burn!

    u suck

     

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    Wolfgang, Dec 22nd, 2008 @ 5:13pm

    Re: Losers

    They aren't coke nosed.

    They were not sueing fans, they were sueing intellectual property theives. A fan would buy the cd.

    They weren't just doing it for themselves. They were doing it for every band out there that doesn't do big tours and only makes a buck off of CDs.

     

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    tyler, Sep 17th, 2009 @ 9:48am

    Re: Lars Ulrich has done for music what Jim Baker did

    u fucking idiot i hope you die what right do u have to bring up the death of someone for fun long live metallica!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     

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    maynard, Jan 18th, 2012 @ 8:11am

    Metallica is pussy metal that sucks

     

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    runescoopio, Jun 2nd, 2012 @ 10:59am

    I hate cats. If i download 1 song 50 times will god kill my neighbors cats?

     

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