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Recording Industry Apparently The New Master Of The German Police
from the we-are-in-charge-now dept
The IFPI, the international equivalent of the RIAA, has announced that German police have charged 3,500 eDonkey users with criminal copyright infringement for uploading files on the network, a charge for which they face the potential of five years in jail. It probably shouldn't be too surprising that the group has gotten the police to do its dirty work, since German lawmakers don't appear to be too different to their US counterparts in giving the entertainment industry exactly what it wants, but it is a little surprising to see the head of the IFPI using the terms "we" and "our" to describe the actions, giving the impression that he's also the spokesperson for the German police. While the RIAA's run around with its make-believe police force, why should the IFPI bother when it can get the German police -- who evidently have nothing better going on, like fighting actual crime, rather than protecting outdated business models -- to do it for them?
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Back on topic!
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...like actually fight crime?
Think of what the newspaper Headlines would be if the Police busted a ring of 3,500 criminals in the real world. Just because something happens behind the computer doesn't make it any less illegal than breaking into a record store and stealing the cd's.
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Except in the case of downloading/uploading files, no one looses anything. Everyone gains the data. The prolem is the idea that the RIAA is losing sales because of this, but the real reason they are losing sales is due to their shitty business practices and shitty products. File sharing is just their scapegoat.
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Heh. Yes, we've got lots of subscribers and the business has been growing rapidly, but thanks for your concern.
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Human filtered aggregation of topical material is valuable in itself.
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The matter of how one transports stolen property doesn't matter, it's still theft.
Stealing a car and using it yourself is just as illegal as stealing a car and having it shipped overseas via boat, or via air.
Stealing a CD from a factory and selling it is illegal. Stealing the CD from a record store is also illegal. Why should stealing the same CD from the internet be legal when the other forms of theft are illegal?
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You've misunderstood. It's not about transport, but whether or not anything is missing. If something is stolen, it means something is gone. In this case, nothing is gone... so it's not stolen.
That doesn't mean it doesn't break copyright laws -- but it's not stolen.
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copyright law is not the same as real property law; it is a limited monopoly right which has acceptions like fair use, first doctrine, idea/expression dicotomy and (ha ha ha)limited times....
I thoroughly agree with the sense of this article - it takes something like 5,000 downloads to displace one sale - they should get on with the real crime like domestic violence and child abuse - when they have that under control then let them help out the mass media corporations, until then, the police are meant to be serving the people...
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Whatever, Copyright Infringement is against the law, but it is NOT stealing!
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While the RIAA, and lawyers, may have to say that "Sharing" is not stealing. I don't. I work for no music company, no government, etc. To me the morality of it makes it stealing.
You are purposely taking something that doesn't belong to you. You didn't buy the song even though you know that is what you are suppose to do. To me that is STEALING. You can call it "borrowing" or "Sharing" or anything else you want, it's still stealing.
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Real morality requires truthfulness.
Nope, it is still there.
I know no such thing.
Shouting won't make you right.
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