Big Phishing Kingpin Didn't Actually Make Any Money

from the forgot-the-second-part dept

Earlier this year, we wrote about Microsoft helping to take down a small fry phisher in Iowa, noting that for all the hype it was getting it looked like one random kid playing around with a phishing scam. Considering that most phishing scams appear to be run offshore by organized crime groups, it didn't seem that noteworthy that Microsoft had tracked down one kid setting up a fake MSN page and spamming people. zanek writes in to point to a story he wrote with some more details about the case, including the fact that the kid never actually made any money out of the scam. He got a bunch of people to hand over the information, but it looks like he never actually did anything once he had that info. So, the $57,294.07 fine that he received wasn't for the money stolen, but simply to pay for the investigation into the crime. Yet, at the time, it was made out to be a "sophisticated" phishing scam that required nearly a year of detailed investigation from Microsoft to crack.


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    Joe Smith, May 22nd, 2006 @ 4:07pm

    Phishing bait

    This whole phishing thing mystifies me. I get half a dozen phishing emails a week (along with a dozen Nigerian fraud letters). It just cannot be that hard for the authorities to track these frauds back to the perpetrators. Hell - fill out one of the forms with the details of a honey pot account and wait for someone to access it and then trace the access and the money.

     

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    Mekka Lekka Hi Mekka Hi Mekka Hiny ho, May 22nd, 2006 @ 4:52pm

    Re: Phishing bait

    Computer crimes aren't illegal in many of the countries they do them from. And those where it is, the organized criminals can pay better than the local police department. Specifically, they pay the police better than the local department. So they can be hard to find and hard to punish.

     

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    offshoreman, May 22nd, 2006 @ 4:57pm

    Harder than you think

    Joe, these scams can be difficult to immpossible to bust. Money in a US account opened with fake documents (which takes about 20 minutes to do) gets wired to a bank in Latvia into an account owned by fake documents and is subsequently wired to another bank in a private jurisdiction, such as Anguilla or Jersey. By the time authorities prove there was a crime committed the scam has run its course. In many jurisdiction you have to prove there is substantial likelyhood of a crime in order to get private documents. george Bush does not rule the world - contrary to the belief of some.

     

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    charlie potatoes, May 22nd, 2006 @ 8:36pm

    phishing schemes

    Years ago when airplane hijackings were beginning and there were as yet no air marshals, George Carlin said he intended to carry a gun onto his next flight. For what were the odds that there would be two guys on the same airplane with a gun?
    I say we should all begin to phish.. every e mail account should come with instructions on how to do it. Then what would the odds be that some sucker would happen to answer a criminal's e mail instead of someone altruistic? I say let's flood the market. These criminals ain't from around here anyway... so FUCK YOU, TOWEL HEAD

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 22nd, 2006 @ 9:29pm

    Re: phishing schemes

    You are a Fucking Moron!!!!!!!!!

     

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    Andyware, May 22nd, 2006 @ 10:43pm

    I think the email clients should have already taken care of this problem, pathetic...

     

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    J, May 22nd, 2006 @ 10:44pm

    Re: Re: phishing schemes

    Don't just call him a Fucking Moron. Tell him why he's a fucking moron. I'm not an expert on the subject of phishing, so I don't know exactly where they are fishing from. I do know that the 419 scams are run out of Africa. I will therefore assume that a lot of the phishing scams are also run out of Africa. Unfortunately the term towel head refers to a middle eastern person or an indian. Africans are not middle eastern or indian. perhaps this is the wrong part of the post to correct but It was my favorite.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, May 23rd, 2006 @ 12:55am

    Re: Re: Re: phishing schemes

    Don't feed the troll.

     

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    N.D, Nov 3rd, 2006 @ 7:30pm

    LOL!

    Joe, these scams can be difficult to immpossible to bust. Money in a US account opened with fake documents (which takes about 20 minutes to do) gets wired to a bank in Latvia into an account owned by fake documents and is subsequently wired to another bank in a private jurisdiction, such as Anguilla or Jersey. By the time authorities prove there was a crime committed the scam has run its course. In many jurisdiction you have to prove there is substantial likelyhood of a crime in order to get private documents. george Bush does not rule the world - contrary to the belief of some.

    Well i'll tell you something else, 80% of the Nigerian phishing/scams are NOT made by any Nigerian citizen, all are made only to use their name and social position... that's all, if tomorow appears another e-mail scam, saying that an NewYork rich person died and his son wants to take his money but he needs your help, that doesn't mean it really is like he says so. I've been in contact with such "scammers" or "phishers" by responding to their e-mails and guess what, some even sent me their ID printed photo's, and none of them were Nigerians or Africans or w/e you name it, so stop mixing things if you don't really know anything about it, to spread rummors or false leads or "personal theory's" is easy but that doesn't mean they are also true.

     

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