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Failures

by Joseph Weisenthal

Fri, Apr 28th 2006 5:09pm





I Know, Let's Make The More Expensive, Less Useful Movie Downloads Tough To Use

from the not-listening-to-the-criticism dept

One of the key services that entertainment companies can sell is an easy, enjoyable experience. The lack of effort involved with syncing an iPod with iTunes is what makes that product so seductive, even though cheaper, more flexible options (like piracy) exist. So it's amusing to read a first-person account (via BroadbandReports) of trying to download a film from Movielink, which looked inconvenient from the description alone. The process was riddled with errors and hurdles so it took over an hour just to get the download going, which itself took over 4 hours. What's funny is that Movielink was taking harsh criticism three years ago, so you'd think they would have gotten the message. If you're asking consumers to pay for something that is already available online, the selling has point has to be convenience, something that Movielink hasn't figure out.

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    not that bad

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    Avner Ronen, Apr 28th, 2006 @ 5:53pm

    i have used movielink several times, and while not perfect, it does work.

    the download took me 35min, and not 4 hours.

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    I'm surprised...

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    fsckr, Apr 28th, 2006 @ 7:22pm

    the cable companies haven't jumped on this opening. Convenience is king when it comes to home entertainment. If you make your users jump through hoops they will leave when a more convenient service comes along.

    I've been harping on this issue for a few years now. The box my cable company ships me has a fairly large HD (80GB if i'm not wrong) and a pretty fat pipe.

    I know this might be oversimplifying things a little but why can't they just license all the movies in (say) the Netflix database, encode them in mpeg4, and give me an interface to download them and charge me a fraction of the DVD cost (since there's a much lower comparative distribution cost)

    And no, I'm not talking about the crappy collection of last weeks features that they offer OnDemand, I'm thinking older, less popular movies- you know, the long-tail of the movie selection.

    If they took this route, they'd put companies like movielink and netflix out of business because those businesses have a larger convenience cost.
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    fsckr

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    Anonymous Coward, Apr 28th, 2006 @ 7:56pm

    usenet, netflix get bent

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    Movielink works for me

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    lex, Apr 28th, 2006 @ 8:49pm

    You can ony use IE with movielink and you have to download a client and reboot your system the first time you download the movie.
    Other then that the process is pretty painless.
    With a decent broadband connection you can start watching a move 3 minutes after starting the download.

    And if you still have your college email active you can get 25% off each download.

    I say its pretty convenient if you are willing to fork out 4bux to watch the movie now rather then wait a day for the torrent download.

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    Anonymous Coward, Apr 28th, 2006 @ 9:01pm

    i wqas sued for downloading a movie off a torrent, not a good idea anymore. the mpaa has been getting ip address from the torrent hosting sites.

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    Re:

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    Anonymous Coward, Apr 29th, 2006 @ 12:53am

    plant

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    danny, Apr 29th, 2006 @ 1:34am

    Convenience should be the foremost motive of the company if they r selling something that is available online. It is where movielink flopped. Just by making the product seductive doesnt guarrentes to make it a hit.

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    Laughing, Apr 29th, 2006 @ 3:49am

    Bush

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    Happy Gilmore, Apr 29th, 2006 @ 8:20am

    i've used movielink from the get-go, i like it, never had any problems with it. never had to restart my system after any downloads, and millitary gets dicounts also.

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  10.  

    movielink

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    Bassboat, Apr 29th, 2006 @ 9:17am

    The reason i-tunes sincs so well with the I-pod is that apple takes its software serious. It doesn't have to have all of the fixes windows based systems seem to always need, plus they don't let johnny come lately's mess with their products.

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  11.  

    What?!?

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    Johnny Come Lately, Apr 29th, 2006 @ 9:33am

    Man, Assboat, what did I do?

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    Anonymous Coward, Apr 29th, 2006 @ 12:19pm

    Why should they make it convenient? The MPAA doesn't *want* it to succeed.

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    Sorry must support Firefox

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    James, Apr 29th, 2006 @ 4:10pm

    Sorry IE is not secure enough for me to use it just to get to once site..once they really want to do business then I will come back and try again

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  14.  

    it works great; what's the deal?

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    Don Long, Apr 29th, 2006 @ 7:58pm

    The ONLY problem with Movielink is a poor selection. I've been a member for a few years. The downloads (for a 2-hr movie) are exactly 35 min w/consumer grade broadband and it's so simple to work the Movielink Manager even a shaved ape could do it.

    I don't understand what all the fuss is about.

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    Re:

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    Anonymous Coward, Apr 30th, 2006 @ 12:37am

    "Why should they make it convenient? The MPAA doesn't *want* it to succeed."

    Thats ok. We'll just keep using the "free" services.

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  16.  

    Not quite there

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    Brian Ward, Apr 30th, 2006 @ 8:13am

    I reviewed both Movielink and Cinema Now's new VOD offerings about a month ago. The speeds of both services were fine actually. The software download was a painful experience, but you only have to do that once. The biggest problems with the services are selection, DRM and proprietary deals studios are making. I agree that ONE selling point should be convenience, the second should be quality. The studios need to offer all of the added features available on DVDs along with downloads and provide top quality audio and video guaranteed to be free of spyware and viruses.

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  17.  

    MovieLink

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    Bill Satterfield, Apr 30th, 2006 @ 11:08am

    I got some free dollars for MovieLnk on a cereal box. I have downloaded two movies and found the process to be easy, flexable and even intuative. The quality of the movie, on my HP 7020 widescreen, was quite acceptable.

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  18.  

    MovieLink gone on Safari

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    THEY, Apr 30th, 2006 @ 3:42pm

    Yeah, you can't even use MovieLink with Safari (OSX browser) yet. I'm pretty sure FireFox wouldn't let it happen for me either. Terrible service. F.

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    Re: Re:

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    mthorn, Apr 30th, 2006 @ 11:12pm

    People who steal is the reason why we have to put up with DRM and other roadblocks to actually making digital movie/music downloads a reality.

    Why don't you pay for things like you should or do with out.

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    Re: I'm surprised...

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    mthorn, Apr 30th, 2006 @ 11:14pm

    Actually netflix should just do the service. They already have a library of new and old movies to start ripping from.

    However I prefer netflix's current method. Having the DVD in hand means more features, better quality, and more possibilities of watching.

    Typical wait time is only a day or two, who needs to watch a particular movie right now? If you have a queue you have a constant stream of movies to watch.

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  21.  

    MovieLink

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    butt_erfly, May 1st, 2006 @ 12:08am

    I use Vongo, $9.95/mo, and while it's a rental, not a purchase, it works fine.

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    Re: MovieLink

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    Greg, May 1st, 2006 @ 1:28pm

    I currently subscribe to Vongo, but I'm quitting this week (before my subscription renews) because it's a terrible service - I don't know how yours works "fine." Besides poor movie selection and bulky client, Vongo has deleted my movies 3 times for no reason - they weren't expiring, I didn't delete them, they just disappeared one day before I watched them. Movielink is much better on the whole, I think. But I've switched to Netflix anyway because I don't need to take my movies with me anywhere.

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