China Goes It Alone Again, This Time With DNS System

from the the-rest-of-the-world-can-suck-it dept

China certainly has a history of "going it alone" when it comes to technologies that are agree upon mostly throughout the world. It wants its own WiFi standard, its own 3G standard and its own DVD format. Is it really any surprise, then, that it's now going to use its own DNS system as well? This was pointed out by Broadband Reports, who notes the background of various countries being upset by ICANN's control over the DNS system. Others, surely, will suggest that this is yet another way for China to retain extra control over the internet -- which pretty likely has some part in this. However, it does seem clear, by this point, that China really just doesn't see much advantage in playing within international standards.


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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 28th, 2006 @ 2:32pm

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    the biggest web censoring government in the world is mad at the biggest web datamining government in the world

     

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    Brian, Feb 28th, 2006 @ 2:54pm

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    I agree. but whos fault is that? ITs the worlds for not starting it to begin with. The lets us develope things and then when things are going well wants to take it over. Without the costs that it took to get there.

     

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    Brian, Feb 28th, 2006 @ 2:57pm

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    I agree. But whos fault is that anyway? Its the worlds for not starting developing the standard as a whole to begin with. The rest of the world lets us develope this technology in the majority of ways and then when things are going well wants to take it over. Without the costs that it took to get there.

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 28th, 2006 @ 2:57pm

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    If it eventually got rid of ICANN I'd be happy if most other governments started doing the same thing.

     

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    Be Happy, Feb 28th, 2006 @ 3:00pm

    China Standards

    Lets not be so critical, its natural that as China becomes more important in the world economy that it is going to have a bigger say in creating standards in the same way that todays US standards become world standards. As long as we believe in free markets, the invisible hand will determine whether or not their DVD and WiFi formats gain acceptance. If they do, there is a market for it, so more power to them. If not, they will have just wasted money.

     

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    dorpus, Feb 28th, 2006 @ 3:24pm

    Learn from Myanmar's Example

    (Yeah yeah, it's not really related, but I thought it's funny.)

    In Myanmar, the military regime had recently moved its capital from Yangon to the hick town of Pyinmana, based on the word of a fortune teller who predicted that US soldiers in ninja armor would come from the sky and take over Yangon. Now there is evidence that the high command is moving some of the government back to Yangon. The Chairman of the State Peace and Development Council, Than Shwe, is reported to have toured the hick town, where unpaved roads kick up vast dust clouds, government ministries cannot fit into the tiny buildings, and the buildings are far apart. He is quoted as saying "how the hell can anyone work here?"

    The foreign ministry says that ministries that do international work have been moved back to Yangon, while the interior ministry and agriculture ministries are also preparing to move back.

    http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/world/news/20060301i201.htm

     

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    Anonymous Coward, Feb 28th, 2006 @ 4:57pm

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    Americans that criticize China are comical in the naivete. You remind me of a small child that has been caught with his hand in a cookie jar pointing at a sibling and saying "he did it first".

     

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    Tyshaun, Feb 28th, 2006 @ 5:52pm

    shouldnt we be applauding this?

    Most of the articles I read on TechDirt seem to revolve around the notion that innovation is a good thing. Isn't that what China is doing, albeit perhaps for the wrong reason? Let's say China comes up with a DNS network that is more efficient than ours, or a better protocol for WiFi, or a better compression format for DVD. Isn't that a good thing, if they're willing to share? Just a thought.

    Also, as an American I feel a little hypocritical about chastizing China for going their own way, our country is founded on the principle of rugged individualism. I always think about how we still use US standard measurements and the rest of the world uses Metric (silly example, but makes you think).

     

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    Jamie, Feb 28th, 2006 @ 6:13pm

    Re: shouldnt we be applauding this?

    I disagree. While innovation is good, innovation for the wrong reasons is possibly worse. (Just think about the changes made to media formats for DRM support. Or the DVD format; great new features, totalling controlled by hollywood.)

    A country that has blocked any website discussing Taiwan, or anything political, creating a new DNS system is akin to Microsoft creating a new audio format. While it may be innovative and useful, its probable purpose should force us to condem it.

    As far as I can tell, the only thing that has brought China to its current status is the cheap workforce and US outsourcing.

     

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    dorpus, Feb 28th, 2006 @ 6:21pm

    Re: shouldnt we be applauding this?

    US outsourcing is not the main reason. China has long benefited from World Bank loans, outsourcing by other Asian countries, and also some European activity. China has long exported world-class scientists, who are increasingly moving back to China or serving China's interests indirectly, as China becomes a better place to live. In my graduate program, it sounds like most of the Chinese students plan to go back to China -- since it's so hard to get a working visa in the US, and they will be second-class citizens here because of their limited English, there's no obvious reasons for them to stay.

     

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    Backwoods Weaver, Feb 28th, 2006 @ 6:51pm

    Its a control thing

    Sounds to me like China wants to get a little more control. Anyone who knows DNS knows that it is a master record for locating resources, China wants their own...interesting.

    If their system was open like the current DNS standard there would be no problem. There is only ONE reason to keep things proprietary, to retain control, for reasons of self interest; most likely profit, or in the case or proprietary DNS, control of what you can "know".

     

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    Norman zhao, Feb 28th, 2006 @ 7:23pm

    more convenient for hijack DNS

    one reason is that it is more convenient to hijack DNS~

     

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    suv, Mar 1st, 2006 @ 1:44am

    The Two Grand Visions

    a) it's a scare tactic, for China to get what it wants from ICANN and then abandon their DNS system



    b) it's not a scare tactic, they go for it, their Internet can't be used with the world's internet (domain conflicts etc.), companies stop outsourcing to China since they can't use the same Internet, world's innovation surpasses that of China's Internet, China sucks it, the world rests its case, China abandons their DNS by merging it in the global DNS and appending .cn to the domains or something like that, and we're done with it.

     

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    Charles, Mar 1st, 2006 @ 7:39am

    From the Article

    It appears that no one noticed (or just didn't mention) something verry funny from the article:
    for example Beijing's domain name is "BJ"

     

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    2C00l, Mar 1st, 2006 @ 8:33am

    from article

    Inventions/innovations are great, it is not great when it is used for wrong purposes such as what China is doing with it.

     

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    Anonymous of Course, Mar 1st, 2006 @ 10:38am

    Re: No Subject Given

    Americans that criticize China are comical in the
    naivete. You remind me of a small child that has
    been caught with his hand in a cookie jar pointing
    at a sibling and saying "he did it first".

    No, we did it first. Envy is an ugly emotion.

     

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    George, Mar 1st, 2006 @ 2:01pm

    Re: from article

    Motivated by a desire to be exclusive and separate from the rest of the world will only lead to more problems in this day and age. They may develop a few novel ideas but they are likely to handicap themslves in the long run.

     

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