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   Go Figure..., Jan 30th, 2006 @ 4:26pm

   
   

   Thats sucks does'nt it?

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   Response: Antivirus Firm Pays Up To Avoid Being Ba

   

   Gainer, Jan 30th, 2006 @ 4:28pm

   
   

   Read the Patent #5,623,600 from April 1997. The concept of server-base virus software is not the core of the patent. It is the 822 process steps that are documented make the patent defensible. Trend has quite specific definitions for how the technology is built - the dispute must have some merit. I believe defending intellectual property is important to defend in the US as nearly 70% of our economy is service-based (we don't make capital goods like we used to) http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/netahtml/srch num.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5,623,600.WKU.&OS=PN/5,623,600&RS=PN/5,623,600

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   Anonymous Coward, Jan 30th, 2006 @ 4:40pm

   
   

   U need to check out http://www.tinyurl.com

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   Dam, Jan 30th, 2006 @ 5:41pm

   
   

   You need to look at the TLD: ".gov". When has anything done by the .gov ernment been tiny?

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   Re: Response: Antivirus Firm Pays Up To Avoid Bein

   

   Johan, Jan 30th, 2006 @ 5:59pm

   
   

   OR just make a hyperlink

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   Re: Response: Antivirus Firm Pays Up To Avoid Bein

   

   Anon, Jan 30th, 2006 @ 7:46pm

   
   

   Trend is Japanese, no?

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   OK, Jan 30th, 2006 @ 7:56pm

   
   

   Here is the above link done through tinyurl. http://tinyurl.com/b6czf

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   Anonymous Coward, Jan 30th, 2006 @ 8:12pm

   
   

   Trend is German, yes.

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   Blackmail Sucks

   

   giafly, Jan 31st, 2006 @ 5:28am

   
   

   Re: I believe defending intellectual property is important to defend in the US as nearly 70% of our economy is service-based (we don't make capital goods like we used to)
   
   Strange use of the word "defend", to describe one company attacking another.
   And surely patent lawsuits make a bad situation worse, not better, by increasing the costs of manufacturing in the USA?

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    Tom, Jan 31st, 2006 @ 6:26am

    
    

    Problem is about 90% of all software patents have some basis in prior art and should be summarily ruled invalid. Patent Office doesn't have the staff nor the skill to make this determination, which leads to a lot of undeserved patents being issued.
    

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    Re: Blackmail Sucks

    

    foofdawg, Jan 31st, 2006 @ 7:47am

    
    

    "And surely patent lawsuits make a bad situation worse, not better, by increasing the costs of manufacturing in the USA?"
    
    I don't think I'd be too happy if someone else was making money off of something I patented. I also don't see where the manufacturing cost of software that is already completed and sold on the retail market would rise because of their lawsuit.

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    Software patents suck

    

    Anonymous Coward, Jan 31st, 2006 @ 9:22am

    
    

    they are the biggest thing threatening inovation in software
    
    its a virtual mine field, you cant really write ANY new software that does anything without using patented obvious code. fortunately most of the time you arent sued on it. didnt i see a case a while back where microsoft got sued for some kind of browser plugin system? i mean microsoft makes the OS, makes the dll loading mechanism, makes the browser, makes the ability to load browser plugins for it ;) and someone else does it, and patents it.. its like .. someone builds a road, and you patent driving on it and sue them..
    

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    Re: Blackmail Sucks

    

    Mike (profile), Jan 31st, 2006 @ 11:02am

    
    

    I don't think I'd be too happy if someone else was making money off of something I patented.
    
    Which misses the point entirely. Hey, I wouldn't be too happy if someone opened up a competing pizza shop next to the pizza shop I run, but THAT'S COMPETITION. You have to compete in the marketplace -- not the patent office.
    
    As for patents increasing costs, they add greatly to the legal fees associated with being in the software business.

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    Re: Blackmail Sucks

    

    Adam W, Jan 31st, 2006 @ 4:42pm

    
    

    Not to mention extortion payments, which are also passed on to the customer

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    Re: Software patents suck

    

    Blanc0, Feb 1st, 2006 @ 6:43am

    
    

    someone builds a road, and you patent driving on it and sue them.. More accurately: Someone builds a road, you build and patent a car to drive on that road and they copy your car.

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    Igor, Dec 4th, 2009 @ 8:26am

    
    

    But don't you see, they are promoting innovation, they just want it all for themselves. I do have to agree that the fact that they somehow patented server based antivirus itself is pretty surprising. Patents can be notoriously hard to attain and are very specific. I am thinking that the server based antivirus is the general term for what they patented, but the process itself is quite specific. And, if this held up in court, there is probably something to it. Also, my bet is against a lump sum payment, and for a permanent percentage of sales....just a hunch, though.

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