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   Microsoft getting screwed? Hey left foot, meet rig

   

   ZOMG CENSORED, Dec 22nd, 2005 @ 8:40am

   
   

   I think the irony of this is delicious, but it's still wrong of the EU to do such an unethical thing to Microshaft (He's a complicated app and no one understands him but his OS...), just as it would be to do to any company.
   
   It basically violates my whole mode of thinking to say anything for Microsoft, but this is just one case where it's just wrong to screw them, as it's bad for everyone else.

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   Re: Microsoft getting screwed? Hey left foot, meet

   

   Rikko, Dec 22nd, 2005 @ 9:17am

   
   

   The impression I got from the BBC story was that MS fulfilled their promise to provide documentation to allow full compatibility with non-Windows OS computers on a network (eg. publish API documentation), but the courts ruled that the documentation provided were so shoddy that they were of no use to a third party developer.
   
   I do think MS needs to be taken down a notch, and I think once they start playing with the industry instead of above it, they might see things work out pretty well.

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   What about other OS's???

   

   Justice, Dec 22nd, 2005 @ 9:18am

   
   

   Whoa... can they really do that? On what grounds can ANY government tell ANY company to do ANYTHING with their products (unless it is SOLELY for a government contract). This does not make any sense to me. If they wanted full interoperability within their network, then stick to a single operating system, whether it is Linux, OS X, or Windows. If MS has to provide documentation to assist in interoperability, then shouldn't Linux and OS X be required to do as well? Why single out one company?

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   Re: What about other OS's???

   

   Anonymous Coward, Dec 22nd, 2005 @ 9:36am

   
   

   because as soon as you're #1 the rules chage...
   
   microsoft didn't trick me into using windows by doing anything illegal.. I made a conscious choice to use it..
   
   I've tried other things but windows is just such a nicely polished turd that always came back it to..
   
   all these people complaining about a monopoly just want to see the piss taken out of them pure and simple

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   Only one reason

   

   Dave, Dec 22nd, 2005 @ 9:43am

   
   

   There's only 1 reason I use Windows and that's games. If game developers started making games for Linux I'd be off Microsoft in a second. Linux is a more stable OS and supports almost all the same productivity software Windows does. Personally I believe in GNU. It's a much better way to promote innovation.

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   Re: What about other OS's???

   

   ZOMG CENSORED, Dec 22nd, 2005 @ 9:47am

   
   

   That's what I thought. It's rather unethical to target a single company when others are in the same boat (Apple, for example, is really difficult to interoperate in many circumstances). I really think that this shouldn't attack one company if others are guilty of the same charges.
   
   I doubt there'd be as much "well that's fine, charge them 2.4M Euros, they can afford it" if it were applied to certain distros of *nix platforms.
   
   Again, it's a matter of "Left foot, meet right shoe" for microsoft, they're getting screwed for having done everything that was asked of them (Hell, accurate, though highly technical interoperability documentation is available from the MSDN library).

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   Re: What about other OS's???

   

   Justice, Dec 22nd, 2005 @ 9:57am

   
   

   The documentation listed in MSDN library is not targeted for other systems, rather only for WIndows OS that support WMI. Now, if MS opens WMI to allow support from different systems, then wouldn't that also create another vulnerability in the Windows OS?

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   Anonymous Coward, Dec 22nd, 2005 @ 10:25am

   
   

   Microsoft has to pay RealNetworks 1 billion in royalties for including windows media player with their OS. Mean while Apple with their QuickTime media player is left untouched. Now this... EU is just a bad idea that has to much power.
   
   

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   The Other Mike, Dec 22nd, 2005 @ 10:34am

   
   

   Anyone who supports this decision has absolutely no right to complain about high license fees. I hope they milk the EU countries dry for licensing fees now and then sue the crap out of them for pirated copies. Cause meet Effect.
   
   

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    Re: What about other OS's???

    

    ZOMG CENSORED, Dec 22nd, 2005 @ 10:41am

    
    

    What doesn't create vulnerabilities in the MSOS's?

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    TechNoFear (profile), Dec 22nd, 2005 @ 7:17pm

    
    

    MS had reserves of over US$49b in 2003.
    MS makes >40% profit overall its operations.< BR>MS makes >80% profit on Windows OS...
    If MS keeps delaying this case, as it is attempting, then the settlement will be irrelevant as the compeditors will have gone. Standard MS OP.
    This shows that the EU finally stopped squabbling amongst themselves long enough to realise that the EU is now the largest market place in the world and as such can dictate terms to even MS. Something the US congress seems unable or unwilling to do.
    "a hostile act against an American company with severe consequences for the global economy," Rep. Ben Nelson of Nebraska
    "based on protectionist policy, not on sound economic principles." Rep. Adam Smith of Washington
    
    

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