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   Copy Protection

   

   Stoned4Life, Nov 14th, 2005 @ 5:28pm

   
   

   Copy protection is so overrated. Come on? So Sony is going to launch this massive copyright protection initiative. Well, guess what? We'll just buy our music from someone else... or, do what we've already been doing and continue to download it online!!!
   
   Holy crap? Who has been buying these CD's? Not the people who download music! No, the Software is only hurting the already good-samaritan market while the people who have been illegally downloading music are ACTUALLY better off right now.

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   Re: Copy Protection

   

   zazie, Nov 14th, 2005 @ 5:43pm

   
   

   I think my brain is going to explode. I didn't think this SonyBMG Situation could get any dumber... apparantly I stand corrected. It's like watching someone voluntarily throw themselves down a flight of stairs over and over and over!

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   Re: Copy Protection

   

   Mike, Nov 14th, 2005 @ 5:57pm

   
   

   P2P and Torrents all they way. You get it when you want it and at your own price. If all else fails, its not worth it, as you can see with the situation unfolding. My fired is one of these, "I love my bands so much I HAVE to own the ORIGINAL CD's, then rip them to an MP3 Cd or to a flah drive player." Well look at him now, the "true" fans are getting it good now aren't they, good job Sony BMG!
   
   -Mike

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   Re: Copy Protection

   

   Mike, Nov 14th, 2005 @ 5:59pm

   
   

   friend instead of fired

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   options

   

   jdw242, Nov 14th, 2005 @ 6:59pm

   
   

   isn't there a thing called a live cd?
   don't the live cds let one play and or rip a music cd?
   
   If not, why not?
   
   If so, what's the deal? Many people have external USB drives; the live cds surely support such devices as storage... right?
   
   Throw me a bone here; I'm the 'buy to own' type of music buyer, and I'll keep copies of my discs on my laptop, thank you very much.

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   Re: options

   

   jdw242, Nov 14th, 2005 @ 7:02pm

   
   

   yes, this does assume one has TWO cd-drives...
   
   thanks JS

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   Live CD

   

   Shades of Steve, Nov 14th, 2005 @ 7:10pm

   
   

   Try slax. As long as you have a decent about of RAM you can boot to ram and free your optical drive if you only have one

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   Re: options

   

   shadesofsteve, Nov 14th, 2005 @ 7:12pm

   
   

   Should give Slax a try. Live CD of slackware, can boot to RAM if you have at least 512megs i believe. frees up the optical drive. one of the versions is already set with win32codecs and good to go.

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   Re: Copy Protection

   

   macbeach, Nov 14th, 2005 @ 8:18pm

   
   

   " 'Friend' instead of 'fired' "
   
   I totally missread this, leading to insite. I thought you were suggesting what should be done to the Sony exec who came up with this boneheaded idea. Only I thought you said:
   
   "Fried instead of fired."
   
   Yeah, I think that would make perfect sense. (I bet his bosses at Sony will soon think so too.)

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    Re: Copy Protection

    

    Anonymous Coward, Nov 14th, 2005 @ 8:58pm

    
    

    People seem to be talking about Sony going to court over this...but when has any company gone to court for security buggy software? MS anyone?

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    Re: Copy Protection

    

    xan_user, Nov 14th, 2005 @ 10:36pm

    
    

    Sony is a drunk guy falling down the up escalator.

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    Murphy, Nov 15th, 2005 @ 1:49am

    
    

    I love google: How to Protect Yourself from Sony's Rootkit.

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    Re: No Subject Given

    

    Bob3000, Nov 15th, 2005 @ 4:29am

    
    

    Nice find!

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    To Sony

    

    thecaptain, Nov 15th, 2005 @ 5:29am

    
    

    This is the way I see it, and I hope some Sony PR droids are surfing the net "gauging" public response and option:
    
    I haven't downloaded songs in years, although I remember Napster vividly in its heighday. I did download tho, I don't feel guilty because I still bought CDs. Lately, I've just bought CDs.
    
    Well guess what Sony, screw buying CDs now, I'm going back to downloading...I'm not taking the chance that you'll screw my machine over again.
    
    You wanted to control piracy? Well guess what, you controlled me right back into P2P and I'll enjoy doing it, the freedome of it, the lack of worries that you'll screw up my system and the total JOY that morons like yourselves WON'T get my money!

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    MP3's Suck

    

    nonya bidness, Nov 15th, 2005 @ 6:42am

    
    

    All this lame crap to play compressed shitty versions of music, on a crappy little computer sound system. CD audio on PC sound systems suck, period.
    Mp3's on PC sound system suck more...
    My CD player cost more than my PC and nothing can be installed into it, and I can record from that if I need to. If I can not play a cd in my player, I don't want it. Low end music appreciation is causing more low end troubles for low end music systems.

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    Re: options

    

    crystal_tech, Nov 15th, 2005 @ 7:32am

    
    

    not true look at your cheat codes for slax.

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    Re: MP3's Suck

    

    Riv, Nov 15th, 2005 @ 7:42am

    
    

    Nonya, let me guess: you hate it when music you like goes mainstream and you touch yourself when listening to your cd player. For the 99% of the population that aren't music snobs, mp3s usually do the job just fine, so get off your high horse and STFU.

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    Re: MP3's Suck

    

    nonya bidness, Nov 15th, 2005 @ 8:02am

    
    

    Hey Riv
    I like the music I like, mainstream or not. It's none of your bidness if I touch myself, keep me out of your fantasies. I am not a music snob, I just have higher standards than YOU, and don't mind paying for quality. Besides, it's more like 60% mp3 vs 40% high quality, dont make it seem like you are such a majority with your LOW standards. Get off your high horse,you don't know me, you MP3 lovin,low quality,not paying for music,tone deaf snob.
    
    love
    nunya

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    Re: MP3's Suck

    

    Happy user, Nov 15th, 2005 @ 10:11am

    
    

    It seems to me that many many many people enjoy the mp3 format -- this very well explains why Sony would create such a horrible tool that attempts to make it difficult for the music listener to place their purchased (or "leased") music to any STANDARD PORTABLE device other than their outdated cd-player.

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