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RIAA Pretends It Fully Won The Grokster Case --- Threatens Other P2P Providers
from the this-ought-to-be-fun dept
While the actual Supreme Court decision in the Grokster case was not completely what the entertainment industry wanted, ever since it came out, they've been acting as if the Supreme Court ruled 100% in their favor. What the court actually said was that companies would not be protected if they were shown to have taken affirmative steps to encourage the sharing of unauthorized copyrighted material -- the so-called induce standard. The standard, itself, is still quite fuzzy. Fuzzy enough, in fact, that the RIAA didn't waste much time going around telling people that the court had declared all file sharing programs that didn't have deals in place with the industry as illegal. Basically, they started suggesting that almost anything they could think of was inducing copyright infringement. Of course, that was jumping the gun, because the Supreme Court didn't say whether or not Grokster and the others did, in fact, induce infringement. They sent that question back to the lower court, which has yet to decide. In the meantime, though, it should come as no surprise that the RIAA has now let its own interpretation go to its head and has sent legal nastygrams to other file sharing app companies, including those behind BearShare, LimeWire and WinMX, telling them all (notice the language) that they must "cease and desist from enabling and inducing the infringement." Considering that it's not even clear if the first set of companies they sued infringed, it would appear that the RIAA is jumping the gun a bit. The RIAA needs to realize that they don't get to decide what the definition of induce is. That's for the courts to clear up. But, for right now, it appears the RIAA's definition of "inducement" is any app that lets unauthorized files be shared -- which is a pretty broad definition. Update: Here's another version of the story that won't expire so quickly.
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RIAA = 800 Lb. Gorilla
You try (literally) telling an 800 lb. gorilla it can't do something. If they want to send C&D letters to people, tehy can do so.The RIAA carries a lot of weight.
True, it's for the courts to decide, but the RIAA just wants to take down the filesharing apps, so its gonna do its best to do that.
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I'm not even interested in doing it other then to piss them off.
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I'm not even interested in doing it other then to piss them off.<< br>
Same here. I swear it's the only reason I do it. And the funny thing is, I only download music I already "own" - most of it on old vinyl or cassette that I haven't listened to in years.
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RIAA
"Music" is sound, not a cd. Cds can be stolen, not sound. Music is a collection of orderly and audible soundwaves which can take millions of forms...good luck convincing us that you own the air or our internet modems, RIAA. We'll never buy it.
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love, eoin.
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Karma is out there
Is it because I download it for free? - NOPE!
Is it becuase I get it from friends on copied CD's? - NOPE!
It's becuse of YOU, RIAA, I simply refuse to
support you by buying mainstream music anymore.
Got that?
No "Illegal" downloading, no "copying", just plain disgust for your greed.
Stick that in your statistical engine and smoke it.
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Uh oh...
The RIAA never ceases to amaze me. They destroyed my hopes with internet radio, and they're destroying the potential benefits of an integrated decentralized networking system (BT) as well as other P2P systems.
I'm not one for smiting evil, but we should hang those bastards.
Lets face it: the real criminals are the end users, who are willfully breaking the law. It's not Subaru's fault if I get busted for speeding in my WRX, yet the car was CLEARLY designed for breaking that law.
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... they always leave out the biggest community...
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RIAA Website
"RIAA members create, manufacture and/or distribute approximately 90% of all legitimate sound recordings produced and sold in the United States."
They wish! Guys, which country are you in? What about voice mail, recorded messages, telephone logs, legal downloads, recordings for personal use on all those iPods and VCRs, etc.?
I'd be surprised if you were responsible for 0.9% of legitimate sound recordings produced and/or sold in the United States.
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Obviously someone at the RIAA heard about "guerilla marketing" and got confused. . .
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Re: Uh oh...
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Re: RIAA != 800 Lb. Gorilla
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Boycott!!!!!
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Um....
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