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   High Tech PR

   

   Matthew Maier, Aug 5th, 2005 @ 9:54am

   
   

   As you know doubt know, Google's not the only offender. Companies like Oracle, Siebel and many other high tech companies are notoriously difficult for reporters to work with. From my experience, technology industry PR is some of the most egregiously heavy-handed PR of any industry. I understand the whole concept of staying on message, but when flaks sitting in on an interview do more talking than their executives, that's a problem. Unfortunately, it's not one endemic to Google (though I too experienced their tactics, and it can be frustrating).

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   Re: High Tech PR

   

   G, Aug 5th, 2005 @ 10:13am

   
   

   Offender...
   They put a man's worth (in the billions) and his home address.
   Criminals have never been accused of being that smart. Could it be possible that maybe you shouldnt paint a big bullseye on the home of someone worth a lof oy money for any thieves, nutcases and kidnappers?
   Sure, they could get the information themselves, but let them. Maybe he has children and doesnt like the idea of a big news source that they had been cooperating with endangering them any more than just being rich already does.

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   Get Real

   

   Mousky, Aug 5th, 2005 @ 10:17am

   
   

   Must be a slow news day. If a company does not want to grant a report or a media company an interview, so be it. How is this newsworthy? Yawn.

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   My take

   

   Dres, Aug 5th, 2005 @ 10:47am

   
   

   I think I'd act pretty much the same way. A lot of reporters can be dicks and don't deserve interviews, on the other hand others may sing praise about you. If you want to write a story about me and/or my company, and you want to get the info from me, or have an interview, thats a privelege, and sometimes the line is crossed. Many journalists seem to think its "their right" to have everything they need at their fingertips to write a story. But the world doesn't work that way, you only have the right to write.

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   No Subject Given

   

   Anonymous Coward, Aug 5th, 2005 @ 10:52am

   
   

   "Google's desktop search was sending data about what's on your desktop back to Google -- which is completely false"
   
   And you know this is completely false because... google says so?
   
   good one.

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   Re: Get Real

   

   Mike (profile), Aug 5th, 2005 @ 12:20pm

   
   

   Hmm. It's not just the fact that they declined to comment. That happens all the time. And no one is saying they don't have the right to do this.
   
   The issue (and what makes it newsworthy) is the reasons *why* they've decided not to talk, and the fact that they've apparently put a complete one year ban on talking to reporters at that organization for any reason. It certainly suggests an attitude out of Google that seems a bit more arrogant than it need be.
   
   Sure, reporters can get annoying, but it's fine to just say no comment. But to say "we won't talk to you for a year" comes off as being quite obnoxious. Google can get away with it for now, seeing as they don't need press coverage -- but situations change, and burning bridges with the press in that way seems like an odd strategy.

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   RT whole FA?

   

   Phil Ringnalda, Aug 5th, 2005 @ 12:36pm

   
   

   I hope you didn't have anything too interesting in the second half of your post, because when I hit the part about "Someone at Slashdot actually read all the way to the bottom of an article" I had to sit down for a while, and couldn't finish for the shock. Now *that* is news.

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   Re: No Subject Given

   

   Anonymous Coward, Aug 5th, 2005 @ 1:05pm

   
   

   We know this because we have ethereal to tell us so.

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   Re: Get Real

   

   Mousky, Aug 5th, 2005 @ 7:48pm

   
   

   Obnoxious or not, Google has the right to ignore a specific media organization. Just because you don't like the reasons Google is giving does not make the issue newsworthy. If the media has the so-called "right to pry" then Google (or any company for that matter) has the "right to ignore" or "right to ban". Sorry Mike, but you struck out on this one.

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    Re: Get Real

    

    Mike (profile), Aug 5th, 2005 @ 8:35pm

    
    

    Again, I never said they didn't have the right to do this. Where did I even suggest it?
    
    What I did imply was that this was not a smart move, and I'll stand by that. It's the arrogance of the move that makes it newsworthy to us. It also seems newsworthy to many others, if you look around the web today. You don't have to agree. That's why you have your own site. :) But, it's really up to those of us here at Techdirt to determine what we find newsworthy.

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    Re: RT whole FA?

    

    Tim, Aug 5th, 2005 @ 11:08pm

    
    

    I'm with Phil, cutting and wise as always. That is the news.

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    Re: Get Real

    

    Tim, Aug 6th, 2005 @ 5:49am

    
    

    Quoth Mike:
    
    > What I did imply was that this was not a smart move, and I'll stand by that. It's the arrogance of the move that makes it newsworthy to us.
    
    Yes, the 1-year ban is different from a 1-off "no comment", indeed. And I wouldn't have said so much `arrogant' as suggesting that it could be a patently immature response, unless, as someone else has pointed out, giving a rich person's address qualifies as a good reason for it.
    
    It's news-worthy in terms of potentially answering the question `how evil is google?'.

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    Re: Get Real

    

    google pr, Aug 6th, 2005 @ 7:38am

    
    

    "What I did imply was that this was not a smart move, and I'll stand by that. It's the arrogance of the move that makes it newsworthy to us."
    
    we will no longer conduct interviews with techdirt.com until august 2006. :)

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    Re: Get Real

    

    Mousky, Aug 6th, 2005 @ 1:43pm

    
    

    I'm surprised it took this long to bring up the whole "evil and google" thing. Banning interviews for a whole year may be arrogant, but it is not evil. It is most amusing the great lengths people go to find a small slimmer of questionable proof that Google is evil. It is important to note that Google did not ban interviews forever or indefinitely, but for one year. Sounds more like a cooling off period. Rather, than get into a war of words with CNet, they decided to not talk to them. How evil of Google. Again, not newsworthy ;)

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    Re: Get Real

    

    Chris Maresca, Aug 9th, 2005 @ 9:45am

    
    

    Google is turning into another Netscape. Their product may be more viable in the marketplace, but the way they and their employees behave is EXACTLY the same as 'hot' companies at the height of the dot-com bubble. Russell Beattie has an interesting take on this here: http://www.russellbeattie.com/notebook/1008115.html
    
    The other thing that most people don't realize is that Google is essential an advertising company. They have placement inventory and they sell it. That sort of position usually doesn't last, and there are plenty of examples of this around. I used to work for a company called Organic Online, which, in the late '90s, controlled 60% of online banner ads. Needless to say, they don't anymore.
    
    Chris.
    
    

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