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   the whole damn anming thing is stupid...

   

   lemon obrien, Jul 7th, 2005 @ 12:13pm

   
   

   why do we need www (dot) whatever...
   its just a mapping of ascii to an ip address
   why not just...techdirt
   
   

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   Re: the whole damn anming thing is stupid...

   

   Anonymous Hero, Jul 7th, 2005 @ 1:24pm

   
   

   Well actually, the techdirt site also maps to just techdirt.com, so it would map to both www.techdirt and just plain techdirt.

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   Re: the whole damn anming thing is stupid...

   

   anonymous cowboy, Jul 7th, 2005 @ 1:30pm

   
   

   Let's see... what would an internet that isn't "mostly controlled by the US" look like?
   No ebay
   No google
   No yahoo
   No MSN
   No craigslist
   No Techdirt (?!)
   enjoy that one, foreigners! i think i'll stay over here on the real internet, led by good old american innovation!

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   Re: the whole damn anming thing is stupid...

   

   A.F, Jul 7th, 2005 @ 1:37pm

   
   

   There's nothing that pervents a single site to be accessible via both 'nets. In fact, if the new network takes off, which I very much doubt, this is what most people would do. It would still be HTTP over something that looks like TCPIP, right?

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   No Subject Given

   

   Anonymous Coward, Jul 7th, 2005 @ 1:42pm

   
   

   Although complaining about the US is very vogue, I can't imagine any other institution that would have done a better job managing the internet infrastructure. The thought of the UN running it makes me shudder.
   

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   Pussy, Jul 7th, 2005 @ 1:48pm

   
   

   So if we follow this comment to its logical conclusion, you would also like the US government to manage all health care, all security both public and private, control all airlines, to say nothing of having the ability to allow or restrict the free flow of information?
   
   You voted for W. didn’t you?
   

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   Re: the whole damn anming thing is stupid...

   

   Anonymous Coward, Jul 7th, 2005 @ 3:32pm

   
   

   "why do we need www (dot) whatever... its just a mapping of ascii to an ip address why not just...techdirt "

   You don't, and you never did; it just became customary to give your dedicated websever the name "www.yourdomain.whatever" because it was usually a physically seperate machine with an IP address different from "yourdomain.whatever".

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   Re: the whole damn anming thing is stupid...

   

   lemon obrien, Jul 7th, 2005 @ 3:50pm

   
   

   maybe its time to change.

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   great, here's a hundred and twenty bucks

   

   nonuser, Jul 7th, 2005 @ 5:58pm

   
   

   Give me the .com, .net, and .uk domains in your new Internet

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    Sounds Good

    

    dorpus, Jul 7th, 2005 @ 8:14pm

    
    

    Does anyone really like the US internet, with all its spam, popups, adware? Why shouldn't others build better internets? Fragmentation will work better against malware writers too, if their tricks won't work on all internets.
    
    

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    new internet

    

    Marc, Jul 8th, 2005 @ 2:43am

    
    

    you would still be able to access both nets, i'm assumeing of course that bandwidth would overlap. it would make sure that the internet would remain an open voice for all people re:china scensoring their media including internet. things like the internet shouldnt be in then hands of government or any single entity. too much corruption in politions, from every party. keep the internet in the hands of the people. its information. thats where it belongs.

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    Re: the whole damn anming thing is stupid...

    

    thecaptain, Jul 8th, 2005 @ 7:32am

    
    

    *cough* what a moron!
    
    way to miss the point...
    
    MSN, Craigslist, techdirt, google aren't "US" controled.
    
    Go read the article and read about domain registrars sometime.

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    Re: the whole damn anming thing is stupid...

    

    Phibian, Jul 8th, 2005 @ 9:05am

    
    

    I should point out that many, many folks don't just have a www.webaddress.com Of those that do, generally both www.webaddress.com or simply webaddress.com often both work.
    
    Take our site as an example. www.phibian.com and phibian.com both point to our website. However, we also use other bits of text to point to different websites or services that we have online.
    
    For instance, if you are looking for a demo of any of our products, if a demo is available, it is accessible under productname.demo.phibian.com.
    
    Quite a number of organizations use similar schemes for hosting web applications such as webmail.
    
    Unfortunately, people are so used to the www, that it is confusing when no www is required. We generally allow a www in front no matter what (some exceptions) because it results in fewer support calls. Like it or not, www is here to stay for at least a few more years.

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    Re: the whole damn anming thing is stupid...

    

    Anonymous Coward, Jul 8th, 2005 @ 9:49am

    
    

    what makes you think the internet is controlled by the US in the first place? it's mighty arrogant for any of you to think that the internet belongs to the US.

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    Re: the whole damn anming thing is stupid...

    

    Ivan Sick, Jul 8th, 2005 @ 10:08am

    
    

    Yeah, _the internet_ doesn't "belong" to any country or entity. Neither does America have any control over it. DARPA developed the technology that the web is based on, but that's it. And the "US internet" "with all its..." spyware, etc....most of those popups don't originate in America, probably...

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    "US controlled"

    

    Ivan Sick, Jul 8th, 2005 @ 10:11am

    
    

    Ah yes, forgot to point out: "mostly controlled by the US," the way I read it, means "The largest portals and sites on the internet are owned by American companies" not "The United States government dictates how the intarweb works"

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    Re: No Subject Given

    

    Anonymous Coward, Jul 8th, 2005 @ 11:11am

    
    

    So if we follow this comment to its logical conclusion, you would also like the US government to manage all health care, all security both public and private, control all airlines, to say nothing of having the ability to allow or restrict the free flow of information?
    You voted for W. didn’t you?
    I think you're a bit confused about what the phrase 'logical conclusion' means. You seem to be using it as a synonym for 'Waah, stomp my foot.'
    What free flow of information on the internet has the US blocked (that wasn't blatantly illegal)? Compare that to the micromanagement we could expect from the UN, or that we already see in many other countries.
    

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    "Controlled"

    

    Fazookus, Jul 8th, 2005 @ 12:23pm

    
    

    
    Um, controlled here means control of the DNS system currently used, not the hardware, the protocols, or the sites. You could start Joe's Names 'n Numbers and replace it if you could get enough people to agree (that would be the hard part, of course).
    
    Faz

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    Ha Ha

    

    VonSkippy, Jul 8th, 2005 @ 6:05pm

    
    

    Ha Ha, that's a good one. A large scale network designed and managed by Turks. That's the first thing that comes to mind when you think of Turkey - High Tech. ###To-do list. Wash camel. Smack wife around. Belittle daughter for overcooked dog. Change IP on domain and update all BGP routers###. Think I'll wait until version 2.0 (and or hell freezes over) before I care.

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    Re:

    

    Ivan Sick, Jul 8th, 2005 @ 10:04pm

    
    

    "controlled here means control of the DNS system currently used,"
    I still say the US as a contry or a government has nothing to do with it...

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    Re: Re:

    

    Anonymous Coward, Jul 12th, 2005 @ 7:07pm

    
    

    As long as YOU say so, it must be OK.
    
    We should all just shut up and stop our whinning.

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