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  Justin, Jun 25th, 2004 @ 7:02am

  
  

  surfers are safe

  According to the original source at Internet Storm Center, there are 2 different infections going on. M$ IIS servers are vulnerable to an exploit that is undetectable by current virus scanners. However, visitors to infected servers are safe, because a separate method of infection is used there: a common JavaScript exploit, and a common trojan horse is downloaded. The trojan horse IS detected by current virus scanners, it's a "known" trojan horse.

  Don't get me wrong, I do use and prefer Firefox. There's just been a lot of misunderstanding about this current development, and only because CNET, Slashdot, Techdirt, aren't reading the Internet Storm Center article carefully.

   

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  Mike (profile), Jun 25th, 2004 @ 8:36am

  
  

  Re: surfers are safe

  The note about AV software blocking this was added later after they were updated... It wasn't an issue of not reading it carefully, but reading it too early.

   

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  dorpus, Jun 25th, 2004 @ 8:12am

  
  

  What if

  There are even more insidious bugs for non-IE browsers, and no one realized it? Maybe such users start getting mysterious bills from collection agencies, their kids disappear, ....
  

   

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  thecaptain, Jun 25th, 2004 @ 11:57am

  
  

  Re: What if

  Well I for one would LOVE to see you back that up...I mean it pays to stay well informed.
  
  So you got any concrete info to these insidious bugs that we can look up?

   

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  dorpus, Jun 25th, 2004 @ 12:28pm

  
  

  Re: What if

  I would say you just demonstrated the biggest security flaw of non-IE browsers: its users chauvinistically refuse to believe there can be any security holes.
  
  But e.g.
  
  http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/
  
  talks about a "firefox security hole", dated June 15th. If these other browsers are so bulletproof, how come they keep coming out with new versions?
  

   

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  Anonymous Coward, Jun 25th, 2004 @ 4:59pm

  
  

  Re: What if

  Yep. The more people switch to other browsers the more those browsers' vulnerabilities are going to be attacked. I wonder how long until IE is the safest browser again because no one attacks it because no one uses anymore it since it's so unsafe.

   

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  Adam, Jun 25th, 2004 @ 5:11pm

  
  

  Re: What if

  Exactly. Blaming Microsoft for all the world's Internet security problems is fallacious. If Opera was used by 90% of the computers there would be just as many, if not more exploits.
  
  

   

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  thecaptain, Jun 25th, 2004 @ 7:28pm

  
  

  Re: What if

  I'm sorry if you got the wrong impression...but I don't deny or refuse to believe there ARE security holes in Non-IE browsers.
  
  I just wanted you to back your statement.
  
  However I DO believe that Mozilla fixes its holes way faster than IE *AND* that on average its holes are way smaller than IE which basically lets everyone run roughshod over the whole OS.
  
  You will note that the hole I believe you are mentionning isn't Mozilla-only AND that its been fixed already in Firefox.
  
  Anyway...

   

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  Galley, Jun 26th, 2004 @ 7:25am

  
  

  ActiveX

  Is any of this stuff done with ActiveX?

   

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