Can You Go To Prison For Copying A Chat Transcript?
from the when-laws-and-technology-mix dept
Last month, we had quite a heated discussion concerning whether or not an internet chat transcript is admissible evidence for a court case. In the case discussed, the lawyer of someone accused of soliciting sex with a minor moved to have the chat transcript ruled out since he had never consented to being "recorded". In a very similar case in New Hampshire, it appears that the same thing happened and the transcript was ruled inadmissible and it was ruled that the detective in question had made an illegal wiretap. The article we link to at Security Focus has a good analysis of the situation by Mark Rasch, where he points out that we may need to update our laws to reflect the technology - as right now, simply copying and pasting a chat transcript may be seen as a violation of the law. In fact, he points out that rules requiring companies to monitor employee chat and emails may create an impossible situation, where it's both illegal and required to store chat transcripts. I still stand by my original assertion that since a text chat (even in realtime) is by nature an asynchronous form of communication (I can write something, and you can reply whenever you want), anyone using that format is creating the transcript itself - and thus, are consenting to the "recording." Any form of asynchronous communication is naturally about creating a record of each side of the conversation - otherwise the conversation cannot occur. A synchronous conversation, however, has no record without special efforts being taken.
7 Comments | Leave a Comment..
- Schrödinger's Download: Whether Or Not An iTunes Music Sale Is A 'Sale' Depends On Who's Suing
- We Don't Have A 'Wild West' Internet Now, But We Will If SOPA Or Similar Is Passed
- One Nation, Under Guard
- Supreme Court Denies Appeal For The Pirate Bay Founders
- White House Says It Can't Comment On Possible Chris Dodd Investigation





Reader Comments (rss)
(Flattened / Threaded)
chat is synchronous
[ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]
Re: chat is synchronous
And the "archive by default" aspect is a red herring - since they do archive by default on the computer of anyone involved in the chat. They're right there on the screen - a full transcript.
[ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]
Re: chat is synchronous
Chat is synchronous because the connection among chat participants is a bidirectional connected path and even if you are not there in person, the chat app is there to accept the text synchronously. As opposed to email which polls for text periodically.
[ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]
No Subject Given
[ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]
Re: No Subject Given
[ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]
Re: No Subject Given
By the very nature of an IM conversation, one should expect that it can and many times is " cut & pasted " and kept for future reference. I became aware of this when a coworker suggested I start archiving IM transcripts I was having with a superior that was abusing IM to state things he wouldn't have had the balls to say to my face or in an email. ( Side note: I just chose to turn off IM and make that superior send his messages via email and he stopped using inappropriate conversation )
I also believe there are programs that can automatically archive IM conversations. Since I am not a big fan or user or IM programs I may be incorrect.
On the other hand, its quite easy to type up a page that looks like a chat transcript so I don't know how much validity I as a juror or judge would place in a chat transcript.
[ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]
Re: chat is synchronous
How about we take that red herring and beat the lawyers to a pulp.
[ reply to this | link to this | view in thread ]
Add Your Comment