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   Sam Moses, Dec 16th, 2003 @ 7:02am

   
   

   Sounds like blackmail to me. Hey, isn't blackmail illegal? Something to ponder...

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   The patent is in the structure, not the medium

   

   Anonymoose Cow-ard, Dec 16th, 2003 @ 7:15am

   
   

   It looks like the patent covers a technique used to create a directory structure on the CDROM whereby you can store a newer version of a file that's already included on the CDROM and the Operating System will only see the most recent copy of that file. This only works with CDROM recording software that leaves the CDROM "open" for further writing. It's quite possible that ROXIO and other are violating this patent.
   
   It doesn't appear that this patent covers CDROM recording/encoding standards such as ISO-9660 so recording in those standard formats ONLY should be safe from the patent.

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   Re: The patent is in the structure, not the medium

   

   Doug, Dec 16th, 2003 @ 8:47am

   
   

   My quick scan of the patent suggests that it is fpr what we now call "fixed-length packet UDF", used almost exclusively on CD-RWs (and I think RW variants of DVD).

   From what I can tell, the OSTA released the specs for fixed-length packet UDF, and Ricoh claims to have made the first CD-RW drive, both in February of 1997. This patent was filed in April 1995.

   There also seems to be more here than meets the eye. The patent lists the inventor as Raymond Martin, with the patent assigned to Optima. Martin left Optima, apparently to go to EZ-Data, and Optima sued Martin and EZ-Data (and apparently won) for patent and trademark violations. That suit seems to have also involved another former employee, Michael Decorte, who subsequently hijacked Optima's domain name.

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   Re: The patent is in the structure, not the medium

   

   LittleW0lf, Dec 16th, 2003 @ 5:32pm

   
   

   It doesn't appear that this patent covers CDROM recording/encoding standards such as ISO-9660 so recording in those standard formats ONLY should be safe from the patent.
   
   Good, since the article gives the impression that ISO-9660 is what they are talking about, not UDF. However, The Register does a much better job, though it is still confusing as to what activity the patent really covers.

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   Re: The patent is in the structure, not the medium

   

   Robert, Feb 8th, 2005 @ 9:54am

   
   

   I liked what you wrote and your right on the money about that patent that Optima holds, lets chat,[email protected]

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   Re: The patent is in the structure, not the medium

   

   Doug, Feb 8th, 2005 @ 9:56am

   
   

   Lets chat regarding Optima's patent as your are right on the money about it, [email protected]

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   Ann, May 15th, 2008 @ 10:54am

   
   

   as far as i am concerned what does it matter that theese men have found something new. my father was one of the people who helped to create what you are all critiqueing. why dont you all find something to keep you bust for the next however many years and shut your mouth, lets see you do something amazing like they did. ray continues to be very good friends and i never want that to change. they are both good men and personally you would not know that because you have never met either of them. i on the other hand have. mind your own buisness and find another hobby!

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