Outsourcing Doesn't Always Save Money
from the well,-duh... dept
We've talked about this before, but I think all this focus on "offshoring" is way overhyped. First, I think that the companies that are rushing to do it are doing an exceptionally bad job thinking through what they're doing, and aren't actually saving much money. In many cases, they're simply shuffling problems around in the mistaken belief that putting problems half way around the world will somehow solve them (instead of make things worse). While the numbers game suggests that you save money, the reality is proving otherwise. A growing number of companies that rushed to move jobs offshore are realizing that it's not saving them the money they expected. The cost of managing operations halfway around the world is extremely costly (in some cases 4.5 times the actual cost of labor - nearly wiping out the salaries that are 1/5 of what they are in the US). It also tends to slow operations down, since there's a limited time period of "overlap" where decisions that require input from both areas can be made. Meanwhile, I don't think all the "anti-offshoring" protesters are doing any good either. They're simply pushing for protectionist policies that aren't necessary and will actively do damage to our ability to compete. They should just let a few more companies realize their own mistakes, let the economy pick up a bit more, and suddenly the threat of all jobs heading to Asia won't seem so likely.
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Peace Dividends by dorpus on Nov 18th, 2003 @ 12:46am
Moving US jobs to Asia buys off their political support. India and China have been more or less cooperative in the war on terrorism. If those countries decided to heckle us, there would be no end of trouble.
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Follow the Sun by Anonymous Coward on Nov 18th, 2003 @ 2:32am
The cool thing about outsourcing techsupport is that it's blatently obvious to any american (maybe less so Aussies and Brits).
So, when Dell out sourced their tech support, I immediately noticed the differnece (and quality) of support. Now, when I have a room full of machines that need a support call, I call when India is on-line, I insist on on-site support for every unit, even if the unit only needs a BIOS upgrade or something similar (uh, that's right... the integrated NIC doesn't work, I need an entire motherboard replacment).
The average american worker isn't union inclinded, but when it comes to fscking managment when they disrespect their labor pool, we've got it all over anyone else in the world.
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Re: Follow the Sun by AMetamorphosis on Nov 18th, 2003 @ 1:26pm
I wish you had signed your name.
People like yourself are my wonderful and do more to insure technology jobs stay here.
Thank you.
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Re: Follow the Sun by Follow the Son on Nov 18th, 2003 @ 3:20pm
Hmmm. I am sure Dell is tracking cost of ownership of each customer and you are high on their list. I think there is still a quality of service issue but I have noticed the new quality is better than before. Most of the CS reps I speak in India are actually looking to help you. When I speak to a rep in the US, I usual end up feeling like they are doing me a favor.
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Re: Follow the Sun by Anonymous Coward on Nov 19th, 2003 @ 7:43am
and wouldn't it be spiffy if they spoke English ?
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Re: Follow the Sun by Follow the moon on Dec 23rd, 2003 @ 3:43pm
hmmmm... ur conversation looks a kinda interesting. I think there is a large talent pool of IT professionals in India. They stink at Customer support due to the accent but have fab skills in It work
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