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by Mike Masnick




Australian ISP Points Out Sued MP3 Site Is Just A Search Engine

from the finally... dept

Earlier this year when the RIAA was just suing students who created local search tools for MP3s, we wondered why no one pointed out to the RIAA that a search tool is perfectly legal. In reality, it's no different from Google. However, because the RIAA can threaten huge fines, all of the students realized it was much more cost effective to just settle. Now, down in Australia, someone is finally using the "um... it's just a search engine" defense. This case has a bunch of problems. First, the music industry there has sued an ISP for a site they host. We've gone through this numerous times in the US, but the ISP shouldn't be liable for what its customers do online. If they were, nothing would ever get done online, because the ISP would need to review all content before it could go online. Next, the ISP has pointed out that the site in question is merely a search engine which looks for MP3s online, but doesn't actually host any themselves. They wonder if the music industry is preparing to go after Yahoo next. The lawyers for the recording industry demonstrate their ignorance of technology by saying that the site is "totally different" from a search engine because it helps people find MP3s. Right. And a search engine helps people find web pages. While I have reservations about the idea as well, sometimes you wonder if lawyers and judges involved in technology cases should be required to understand a little bit about technology before they get involved in such cases.

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    Oct 23rd, 2003 @ 9:53am
  • No Subject Given

    by Beck

    What about this site that provides an index to mp3 files on Usenet? I suppose they'll be next?

    Speaking of Usenet, what about all of the alt.binaries.mp3 Usenet newsgroups? I wonder when the RIAA is going to go after every company that runs a news server that holds mp3 files? And what about companies like Forte and Microsoft that sell news readers that allow people to download mp3 files from the newsgroups?

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    • Oct 23rd, 2003 @ 10:01am
    • Re: No Subject Given

      by Beck

      I should point out that the site I linked above doesn't provide the ability to download mp3 files, it just tells you where they are. However they do provide a link to a Lycos tutorial that describes how to download files from newsgroups. I guess Lycos is going to hear from the RIAA too.

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    • Oct 23rd, 2003 @ 10:49am
    • Re: No Subject Given

      by Joe Schmoe

      SSShhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! ;)

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    • Oct 23rd, 2003 @ 3:23pm
    • Re: Usenet?

      by anon

      What? Usenet doesnt have any MP3's, DVD's or programs on it. Its all text! ;)

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    • Nov 21st, 2003 @ 4:47pm
    • Re: No Subject Given

      by scott

      Yeah, fuck you riaa, you should be more normal, all I can say is music is not yours you fuckers, its ours to enjoy, because "WE" make them get to where they are now you anti-social fucks with back hair.

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    Oct 24th, 2003 @ 2:00am
  • content control?

    by Reader

    MMMMMM with all this suing going on. why isnt there any class action suits against the music industry - RIAA blah, etc,... and their cronies. u know , the dopey tech stupid legal assistants they hire. i wont call them lawyers since all they are after is the nice service fee. they just waste tax payers money, better elese spent :)

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