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   Reflection on the populace...

   

   Adi, Jul 15th, 2003 @ 4:23am

   
   

   Isnt this just an indication of how ppl are becoming more and more intolerant of each other. None cares to respect others space. They are so busy in their own lives and own interests that the idea of peaceful-coexistance isnt comprehensible to them. People!! Live and let live.

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   How this problem was solved in Australia

   

   Eric, Jul 15th, 2003 @ 6:40am

   
   

   We had this problem about 5 years ago in Australia. It isn't a problem anymore.
   
   The answer was better mobile phone networks. Now that people don't have to shout, they just talk in a normal voice. Which is fine.
   
   These days we have video mobiles. These aren't a problem, except that they are big and ugly.

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   Can we make megaphones?

   

   Anonymous Coward, Jul 15th, 2003 @ 7:16am

   
   

   Since 80s looks are back in, can we make cell phones that look like shoulder-mounted ghetto blasters? It could play deafening rap music whenever the phone rings, then the whole world can hear the conversation. I miss the megaphones of the 80s that blared tunes for Asian tourists playing follow-the-leader.
   

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   Re: Reflection on the populace...

   

   gravy, Jul 15th, 2003 @ 8:07am

   
   

   Yes, I agree totally Adi.
   
   This is not a technology issue, it's a broad sense of every man/woman for his/herself. The phone cannot offend without human intervention, it is a lifeless piece of silicon.
   
   Nobody gives a darn about anyone else, not even family these days.
   
   This is one reason I have for hating our own people as a whole, although you can find decent people out there, just can't see them for the A-holes.
   
   I am ashamed of the people who call themselves Americans and do these things.

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   introspection

   

   Lyndon, Jul 15th, 2003 @ 9:26am

   
   

   I see this as a logical extention on the "war on smoking". Since some intollerant people see it as a threat to *their enjoyment*, it cannot be allowed.
   
   "Second-hand smoke" health effects allowed a flood gate to burst. I do not deny there are health effects, but, really, compared to the high carb/sugar food we eat, the way we drive, and the jobs we put up with, we are more likely to die of somehing else.
   
   Anyhow, expect the Facism to continue. For my part, I let others do what they want unless it effects my Rights. Maybe the problem is that too many people don't know what their rights are? They think priviledges are rights? Or are they just selfish and mean? ;)
   
   

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   Re: Reflection on the populace...

   

   confused, Jul 15th, 2003 @ 9:27am

   
   

   Which part makes you ashamed? The lack of courtesy on the part of the cell phone users, or the strong, sometimes maniacal, desire for some peace and quiet?

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   Works in Japan...

   

   Anonymous Coward, Jul 15th, 2003 @ 9:43am

   
   

   My experience in Japan is that the "no cell phone" use is generally accepted and followed. If someone gets a call while on the train/shinkanzen they usually cup their hand while rushing to one of the areas between cars where it is okay.
   
   (Side note, one day I was commuting in Tokyo on the subway and had a Starbucks coffee which I was really enjoying and saw quite a few people stare or frown at me - it wasn't until I was off the train that I realized that the subway was "no drinking", so I studiously finished my coffee from then on before commuting and wasn't the rude American from then on).
   
   Since peer pressure (staring, frowning) works in Japan, and not the US, we would need some sort of enforcement action for talking in the quiet car - monetary penalty, etc. Or have people on the quiet car pay a little more for the "service" and kick people out who violate it. Just having the higher cost would probably discourage those who would ignore it.

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   No problem here...

   

   LittleW0lf, Jul 15th, 2003 @ 9:49am

   
   

   I am not sure what the problem is, as I love listening to other people broadcast their conversations to the group. After all, where do you think I get my best data for social engineering from?
   
   It is amazing what people will say on a cell phone in a crowded airplane or train, I listened to a woman on a cross-country flight disclose her userid, password, and ip address and some very sensitive financial and medical information. She sat and blerted the information out for all to hear.
   
   And the airplane or train is not the only place...my favorite place to listen for sensitive information is at the airport itself. People sitting waiting for flights tend to carry on as if they are in their own private vaccuum, broadcasting sensitive information with no thought of the consequences. And when you happen to point this out to them, they become livid because you are "illegally" listening to their private conversation, like you have the power to tune them out.
   
   It is a good thing I work for the good guys, but I bet it is safe to say that there are plenty of bad guys out there doing the same.

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   Having fun with rude cell phone users ...

   

   ROYGBIVis, Jul 15th, 2003 @ 11:11am

   
   

   I too enjoy the auditory ramblings of cell phone users who seem to think they are in a void while using them ... one of my favorite things to do is listen to the conversation for a bit and than interject with a comment regarding their conversation that floors the rude cell phone user ... Example: Exclaim loudly " Stop grabing my crotch ! " ... believe me, it sure gives the flustered rude cell phone user something to try to explain to the caller on the other end ... but then again, I am an avid cell phone user myself ... I've just learned that I don't have to take calls in rest, theaters & other places where its inappropriate ... thats why I have Voice Hell & a vibrating ringer ... absolutely NO interrupts ands I can return the call when I properly excuse myself to find a private place to return the call ...
   Oh, I forgot, I'm an American ... I'm not supposed to understand courtesy !

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    Re: introspection

    

    Adi, Jul 16th, 2003 @ 4:25am

    
    

    This is an interesting one. To smokers, smoking does seem like such a natural activity, However, To non-smokers like me, It is a very disturbing one. But since it is a matter of personal choice, I think smokers should avoid putting others in problem. They dont have to be an inconvenience to the rest of the public!!
    
    Maybe I am being too strong... ( I am strictly an Anti-Smoking person, and if I had it my way, noone would smoke ) But I do think it is incosiderate to smoke in a position where others are being troubled.

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    Re: introspection

    

    Anonymous Coward, Jul 16th, 2003 @ 4:53am

    
    

    Perhaps there is another way. Imagine how short the conversation would be if you got closer so you could hear better :)

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    Re: introspection

    

    thecaptain, Jul 16th, 2003 @ 5:51am

    
    

    Please...
    
    I'll make you a deal, the day you can smoke a cigarette while keeping every bit of smoke inside your lungs, you'll be able to smoke anywhere you want to.
    
    I'm not a smoker, I'm not militant, but it IS a courtesy issue, just like the cellphone...smoke bothers some people so if you're courteous you find some place to do it where people won't be bothered by you...simple no? But you seem to have this attitude that YOU should have the right to push YOUR habits on me?
    
    My not smoking does not affect you in any way...you smoking would affect all of those around you...there's the difference...no fascism there.
    
    Its sad that this would have to be explained to you.

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    Re: Having fun with rude cell phone users ...

    

    gravy, Jul 16th, 2003 @ 8:59am

    
    

    "I am ashamed of the people who call themselves Americans and do these things."
    
    note it says the people, that is not an all inclusive phrase, that was only directed at "the people who do these things", like being a rude freakin' jacka$$, and having no idea what common courtesy is, and no desire to better themselves, may all who fit the description die alone with a cell phone stuck to you ear

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