Consumer Association Says Avoid Epson Ink Cartridges
from the ouch dept
It sounds like people are beginning to get pissed off about the ink jet cartridge scams that many printer manufacturers are pulling. In particular, that original article highlighted problems with Epson ink cartridges, that tell people they're out of ink and refuse to print any more when they still have 25% or more of the ink left to go. Now, the Dutch Consumer Association, which very rarely takes sides when it comes to actual products is telling it's members flat-out not to buy Epson cartridges. Hopefully stories like this will continue to generate discussions, and Epson will be forced to change their policies.






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Epson sues!
No really, it's true.
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Yes, cartridges will frequently report being out of ink when they aren't. Unfortunately if the chip signals the computer that the cart is empty, you can't print. Period. The only alternatives are reset the chip or install a new cartridge.
BTW, despite claims by Epson to the contrary, the generic cartridges that sell at 20-25% of the brand name prices work just fine. They won't ruin your printer, make your hair fall out or give you cancer. They will save you money.
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Not only that but...
I wonder if that's where all my extra ink was going?
Nice business practices there.
HP and happy now!
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Crappy Cartridges
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EPSON 3-20-2007
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RE INSTALL
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Epson Printer's and Cartridges
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Epson Printerws/Ink cartridges are an Institutiona
What balls, to devise such a sneaky way to prevent someone from using a paid-for product. And a ridiculously expensive product at that. This scam can only be Epson corporate and technical policy. You don't accidentally pick some one's pocket. It obviously takes effort. So did this. The Epson company decision makers are a pack of crooks. Period.
That printer experienced a violent trajectory into a garbage can. I will never buy an Epson anything again, and strongly encourage you not to.
What balls!
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Re: Epson Printerws/Ink cartridges are an Institut
We're looking for another brand of printer since we don't want to throw good money after bad.
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epson r380
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Cartridges aren't being recognized by Canon R380
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Can't believe it's true
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RE: CX4600
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Re: epson r380
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How can Epson use such short term scams and expect to endure?
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Re: epson r380
Wow.. this great..THEN I hooked it to the real world of computers ... Oh CRAP what a load of shit. I almost never got it installed and then almost never got it to print a picture. I thought I had solved the problems. Wrong. Went to bed ... next day tried to printout a SIMPLE damn email...no way in hell... it failed over and over and over and I finally said to hell with it. Thought well maybe it will still print a picture from my picture file... daaaaaaaaa hell no.. once again tried one from the mem card from the cam. Well low and behold the damn thing did it. I am less than happy with this unit. What is with the damn major problem of printing just an ordinary stupid everday printout????????????????!!!!!!!!!
I have not spoken with the company, however, rest asurred I shall tomorrow morning(1-1-08)if you buy one of these make damn sure to keep all the paper work and the name of whom you bought it from.
Tim
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this is ridiculous. i have no intention of buying a whole new set of cartridges. i will keep it and use the scanner, as that is actually useful, but i will find another company to buy my printer from in the future.
crap ass printer.
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Re: your comment on Epson Printers
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POS - Epson CX4800 Ink Scam
I never made a single color print with the color cartridges and they now ALL register as empty even though I can shake them and hear the ink inside sloshing around inside.
WHAT A SCAM
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epson sucks never buy one
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EPSON, get cash for empty EPSON ink cartridges
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Re: epson r380
Forget about Epson if you want to print anything!
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Re: EPSON 3-20-2007
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Epson not taking back unused ink
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epson tech support....a bunch of BS!!!
Any idea on were to get the thing to reset the chips?
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wot will epsom do to help us. will they give money back
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Re: Epson Printerws/Ink cartridges are an Institutiona
Used two whole black cartages, and when the second one ran out, the machine also told me I was out of color ink... even though I had only run 2 pages of color in all that Time. Epson sucks and the company is a thief with their business practices.
Yes, it would be nice if the machine would tell us that we are low on ink... but we should be the ones to determine that the cartage is empty.... not some asshole at epson.
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Empty New Ink Cartrages
It worked great for a while. Then quit printing.
We purchased new epson ink cartrages from Office Depot, and they would not work because there was NO ink in the cartrages.
I thought this was a fluke, and took the empty ink cartrages back to Office Depot, got new ones which were also empty.
If you weigh the empty ink cartrages they weigh the same as the brand new in the package ones. This is a complete rip off.
We bought a HP all in one, and have had no problem at all.
I feel that Office Depot should be aware of these brand new epson ink cartridges there selling. They don't seem to care.
Even though we bought our new printer from them as well as the epson that is gathering dust in my spare room.
Epson sucks I wouldn't buy another epson product ever.
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Only Using Black
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epson manufacturing know the jig is up!!!
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EPSON ink rip-off
A couple of months ago I installed 4 new cardridges (one for each color), but haven't printed anything in color, thus using only black ink... yesterday my printer wouldn't print, cause MY COLOR CARTRIDGES WERE SUPPOSEDLY EMPTY!!! I thought to myself "WTF!!!"... I took them out and shook them next to my ear... they were full! Not just a little, but really really full!!!
I weight a new cartridge on my digital postal scale and compared it in weight to the supposedly empty one... suprise: only a 0.5 grams difference!
Having read the comments here I know for a fact EPSON has a fixed rip-off policy which scams people out of their hard-earned money and their -way- overprized still left-over ink.
(Remember: -in weight- printer-ink bought from the original manufacturer is more expensive than buying solid silver!)
Anyway, I -had to- (in an emergency) print a black-and-white invoice, but had to go out buying new color-cartridges just to print that black-and-white page, even though I installed a new black cartridge...
I'm so mad... SO mad... I can't describe it... I will print with this printer for as long as these cartridges work (or should I say for as long as my printer will have me believe they work) and then bring it to the recycle plant and buy another brand of printer which doesn't cheat me out of my ink.
EPSON: BOO! BOO! BOO! Shame on YOU! Never again will they receive 1 penny from me!
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Can you scan without ink cartridges?
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Epson Ink Cartridges
Discusting!!!!
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Epson cartridges
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epson cx4600
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Re: EPSON 3-20-2007
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Epson not so bad...
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Re: Epson not so bad...
This isn't an issue of print quality or scan quality. It's an issue of repulsive and deceptive practices by Epson. If I had known that I could not print AT ALL even in GREYSCALE without color cartridges that aren't empty, I'd never have bought the machine.
I don't use color much, but the color cartridges (once installed), evaporate quickly even if not used. It may not even be evaporation. It's entirely possible Epson's other deceptive practice of arbitrarily reporting lower ink levels with every print irrespective of the colors used may be to blame. In any event, my color ink is constantly running out when I'm not using it at all, and that prevents me from printing plain black text -- which I use a lot -- without expending a lot of extra money.
Truly despicable to intentionally design the printer this way.
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I am so mad...
What is even more deceiving, is that, as many of you stated here, you can't use any functions unless you replace the color ink. Why can't I scan or use fax when I am out of color ink? There is no need for ink when you scanning. I was in the middle of work, and I can't finish scanning because I ran out of ink? BS! Where is the logic?
So, this is my plan: I am filing a class action law suit agains you Epson, and I promise you lose this one! Bring it on!
Mike
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Re: Cartridges aren't being recognized by Canon R380
So we have kept it in the box until this summer, as we were not needing to do any photo printing.
And now, I have it out of the box, put the ink in and presto magico, "inck cartidges cannot be recognized. "make sure ink cartridges are correctly installed."
I have tried shutting it off, taking them out, reinstalling them, still the same message. I have also bought a new black cartridge, tried it out, nothing different. Do I need to buy ALL new cartridges?
IS IT WORTH IT????
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epson stylus photo rx ,680, wont recognize cartridges
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Epson
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complete bunch of crap
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epson still getting away with it
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Epson...
I wish I had seen this blog before buying!
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Epson CX6000
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Epson stylus c84
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My Artison 800 doesn't recognize the yellow ink
I agree with everyone - we should be able to print in black if we want to. This is RIDICULOUS!
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Hmmmm
I have 4 Epson printers for various uses and get most of my cartridges from ldproducts.com. Cartridges usually work fine. Results look fine. From my experience, Epsons will usually give you great results. They use pigment inks and piezo heads which vibrate, unlike most other printers. If you have the proper software you can actually control your ink output better than almost any other manufacturer. That's why many screen printers use them to create super black film positives.
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epson R360 ink
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Epson R380 is the worse printer I ever bought!
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I've never used the colored ink AND THEY TELL ME I RAN OUT. I CHECK AND IT'S STILL FULL!!!
THEY HAVE A CHIP IN THE INK THAT tells you to buy more INK.
WE MUST REPORT THIS AND SUE
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I broke open the 'empty' cartridge and guess what?
Tonite I got the familiar...'cannot print, light cyan cartridge is empty' from my printer. So I took out the old cartridge, put in the new one.
THEN, I took the old 'empty' cartridge and shook it. As usual, I could here the ink swishing around inside. THIS TIME I decided to break open the cartridge. Inside, I poked multiple holes thru the black plastic which covers several compartments, and turned the open cartridge over a yellow notepad. Guess what folks? My yellow notepad is now soaked with light cyan ink from my 'empty cartridge'. I wish I had a picture for you. I am mailing in this notepad to Epsom to demand a refund. Or perhaps, even better, I should mail in the ink soaked notepad to better business bureau.
The more ink that came out of the cartridge, the more disgusted I became. If the cartridges were cheap that's one thing but they're damn expensive.
Folks, this is a con game. It doesn't matter what Epsom charges for the printer if they can collect $70 to replace a full set of cartridges and kill the cartridge when there's still a bunch of ink left inside, not to mention the ink soaked up by the 'blotter'.
I am so disgusted. Class action lawsuit is what we need.
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Epson printers - worse than vampires
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DONT BUY EPSON
When ever i replace the ink, it make s me sick!!!!!
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Re: R300
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Epson Printers
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Try ink from axiomarts2011 on ebay
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Now it says that the cartridge is completely out of ink and refuses to start. I don't even care if prints or not. I just want to use the scanner. I'm not buying another cartridge, guess I'll just throw it in the trash.
It would be like having your dvd drive go out on your computer and when you go to start it you receive an error message "Sorry you can't use your computer until you've replaced the dvd drive, thanks and have a nice day." Seriously...
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Our Apologies
I have read each and every one of the complaints above. I empathise with each and every person who has posted a complaint here.
I also own and Epson CX5800F that will not print, scan or fax when the color ink is low.
My CX5800F sat in a supply closet for the last 3 years and was given to a new associate today. Of course like everyone else the ink levels were low according to the printer.
So, what does one do? We purchase more ink. Of course like everyone else, black ink was the only color purchased as color ink isn't needed.
No Joy! This printer will not print with only black ink.
So you ask - Why did I title the subject 'Our Apologies'?
Answer - I am the Chief Technology Officer of Texas Matrix. We are a national retailer of computers and consumer electronics sourced by the same distributor as Walmart, BestBuy, and Tiger Direct.
As a result of what I see as flagrant unethical business practices on the part of Epson America; Texas Matrix will no longer carry the Epson America manufactured products.
I have personally communicated this issue to the distribution source and encouraged them to drop Epson America as a client.
In closing I would like to offer a small suggestion to the consumer public. Laser printers are slightly more expensive, but the ink toner is much better today than it was years ago in price and the amount of printed pages. You can spend about $300 on a nice multi-function laser printer and expect upto 80,000 blk printed pages.
Have a great day!
J.H. - CTO Texas Matrix
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Re: EPSON, get cash for empty EPSON ink cartridges
Ten cents??????????????????? After all we have been through??? Get a real job!!!!
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Re: Empty New Ink Cartrages
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Epson Ink Fraud
We have been ripped off as consumers making Epson very rich every time we have to replace ink. Additionally I don't believe the replacement cartridges are full of ink, meaning they don't fill them up fully counting on you (we the consumer) to have to replace in a very short time. I for one am looking to replace both printers, throw these in the dumpster and never look a an epson for any of my future printing equipment.
I AM DONE WITH GREEDY $$$$$ EPSON..........
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ink not recognized
I Dont understand how it printed the earlier pics but now doesn't recognize the same carts. that already printed.???
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Epson CX6000
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Clicklinks sold me Epson replacement cartridges that don
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Clicklinks sold me replacement cartridges for Epson that don't work
I had been buying Epson replacement cartridges from ClickLinks for several years. The cartridges are expensive and don't last long. So when ClickLinks offered replacement cartridges for my Epson printer, "just as good" but cheaper, I bought 6 for $54.
Money completely wasted. When I installed the first one, no longer would the printer print with the black, it was an illegible mess.
I emailed ClickLinks -- twice -- to ask them to refund my money. They have not responded.
So I thought your audience would like to know.
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Epson Workforce 840
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Sooooo???
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It all really depends.
1) I think that this issue doesn't only apply to EPSON, in regard to having ink left even if the system says there are none. Our family had already gone through different refilling stations to confirm this to us, and since two of our printers (Cannon and HP) broke because of improper refilling, we best venture the originals. Refills and imitations also have a problem with ink detection.
2) In regard to the ink not being detected problem, just reinstall the ink PROPERLY, like the software instructs. Or try to reset the printer. If no result, then the cartridge is faulty.
3) Avoid moving your printer around. I don't know why, but it depletes the ink more. and then the printouts become choppy, then you have to do headcleaning, then ink is charged and wasted, AGAIN.
4) The scanning without ink is possible to me, if the Epson Scan prompt is used. If you have no ink, don't press the button on the printer to scan, use the software.
I'm a student and I have worked with Canon and HP, and I wasn't altogether satisfied. Probably because of my obsessive need to not have my print-outs jagged, since Cannon and HP does that when they print pictures.
I hope this helps, if ever. It really depends on what you prioritize in printing. Epson is not exactly a saving decision, but their print-outs are by far best to me.
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